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While mastering closing is critical, understanding how to open with a data-driven approach is a powerful component to help find and complete more deals. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by author and founder of Win BIG Media Phillip Stutts to discuss the proper ways to begin prospecting. 

The average American sees up to 10,000 ads every day. 

  • Ipso facto, how is your messaging breaking out of the clutter?
  • The correct entry point for salespeople is to create a deeper connection with the prospect and understand what moves them.
  • Whether it’s a B2B or B2C company, Phillip makes each of his clients dive into their customer base to understand more about them and their values.
  • The point isn’t to manipulate; it’s to use that understanding to create a deeper connection that closes more deals.

What can a sales rep start to gain that understanding?

  • Phillip partners with a major data analytics company to create custom data reports. If you have $7500-10000 to spare, this is high-quality data for a few audience segments that matter.
  • If that’s a little out of your price range, just figure out more data on what’s going on. That could be surveys sent to your clients or running small ad campaigns on Google or Facebook.

Phillip’s five steps to using that data:

  • What moves them? You’ve done this by collecting data about your audience.
  • Build out a sales plan. Before jumping into tactics, build a plan that integrates your collected data.
  • Create the brand. The key point - this happens after determining what moves your audience and creating a sales plan.
  • Testing your messaging and branding to refine for your audience.
  • Finally, sell, pitch, or market (because you’ve now eliminated all the risks.)

Phillip’s major takeaway? This is the most disruptive moment in human history, and the best companies are the ones that stand out and think differently. To get in contact with Phillip, visit his website, phillipstutts.com. Or, to start the conversation on what data analytics might look like for your company, visit phillipstutts.com/insights. Check out his book, The Undefeated Marketing System, on Amazon.

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

The Great Resignation has become the Great Reshuffle, meaning it can be difficult for sales professionals like you to find leads and close deals. Luckily, Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is here for you!

Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is the only tool that uses real-time alerts and up-to-date insights to help you know when prospects are ready to buy. And, with over 30 advanced filters, sales professionals can quickly find genuine leads with the intent to purchase.

Gain the advantage of accurate, quality lead generation data from LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial of Sales Navigator at www.LinkedIn.com/TSE

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1540.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The best way to have a great discovery call is by mentally preparing for the call beforehand. But what’s the best way to do this? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by sales and mindset coach Isaac Ho to discuss his strategies and tricks to prepare for a successful discovery call

Mental preparation can be the difference between an okay and a great call. 

  • People often make decisions that fuel a latent belief they’re not even aware they have.
  • Sales is just a transfer of energy. If you’re unprepared for a call or meeting, you transfer the wrong energy to the prospect or client.
  • If you’ve done no research or prep about a company before a meeting, you must spend time and energy learning about the org rather than come to the meeting with thoughts to the table.
  • When you enter a meeting, be curious. While a prospect will give you an understanding of their problem, they could be missing something that completely changes the situation.

How does Isaac mentally prepare for a discovery call?

  • Be clear about what’s going on inside of yourself. What is your intention with the call? It’s not just to sell something, it’s to be curious and learn what the client needs.
  • Don’t talk to people to just match them to a particular solution; that ignores the prospect's thoughts about the situation.
  • People buy from a salesperson when they understand their problems better than anyone else. 

How to come mentally prepared to your next discovery call:

  • Especially if you sell your own product or service, leave your baggage at the door. Don’t take responses personally. You’ll start responding to rejections as they argue directly with you.
  • Accept that you can do everything right, and some people still won’t move. So stop making someone’s decision about you. 
  • Understand the difference between a shadow (when you suppress something about yourself and then project that into the call) and a trigger (when you overreact to a problem not yet dealt with.)

To get in touch with Isaac, visit his website, isaachocoaching.com, or connect with him on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

The Great Resignation has become the Great Reshuffle, meaning it can be difficult for sales professionals like you to find leads and close deals. Luckily, Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is here for you!

Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is the only tool that uses real-time alerts and up-to-date insights to help you know when prospects are ready to buy. And, with over 30 advanced filters, sales professionals can quickly find genuine leads with the intent to purchase.

Gain the advantage of accurate, quality lead generation data from LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial of Sales Navigator at www.LinkedIn.com/TSE

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1539.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Discovery calls are thought to be a challenging element for almost any salesperson. But what if we were to tell you there’s a way to see more success with them? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by the founder of 7th Level Jeremy Miner to discuss discovery call techniques that don’t scare away your prospect (because we don’t want that, trust me.)

What makes a bad discovery?

  • Sellers are taught the selling “ABC’s - Always Be Closing. But with today’s cautious buyers, this strategy doesn’t always come across well.
  • To be great at sales, skip the C and learn the ABD’s of selling - Always Be Disarming.

What triggers a prospect to buy or not to buy?

  • Salespeople trigger behaviors by what they’re asking (and, more importantly, what they aren’t asking.)
  • Salespeople frequently come across as too enthusiastic, talking about their solution too early in the conversation. 
  • While you should be excited about what you sell, it shouldn’t be the point that it comes across as fake. Keep the joy internal. 
  • According to behavioral science, prospects subconsciously pick up on nonverbal cues in the first 7-12 seconds of conversation.
  • If you come across as aggressive, needy, or attached and don’t know the right questions, it triggers the brain to get rid of you.

It’s not them; it’s you.

  • Come across as neutral, unbiased, and calm. Ask the right questions at the right time to encourage a prospect to open up to you.
  • Don’t focus on making the sale. Instead, focus on determining if your solution can help.
  • Jeremy’s advice? Never start a conversation by asking someone how they’re doing - it’s a disingenuous greeting. 
  • Instead, start the meeting and get to business. Spend the first meeting determining if their organization is even a company that fits what you’re able to do.
  • If you enter the conversation assuring them that you’re going to solve their problem, you’ll never find out if that’s true. Stay unbiased.

Learn the right questions that trigger people to be pulled in.

  • When Jeremy first started sales, he struggled. It took practice and time learning to understand how to perform well.
  • Most objections you get are triggered by you, the salesperson.
  • When the conversation starts, you need to determine their current state and where they want to go. As a salesperson, you need to show prospects the gap between where they are and where they want to go and reveal that gap.

Selling is all about change. But human beings don’t like change (even though we say we do.) To learn more about what Jeremy does, join Jeremy’s Facebook sales group (with over 15,000 members) to receive free training, resources and more.

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

The Great Resignation has become the Great Reshuffle, meaning it can be difficult for sales professionals like you to find leads and close deals. Luckily, Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is here for you!

Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is the only tool that uses real-time alerts and up-to-date insights to help you know when prospects are ready to buy. And, with over 30 advanced filters, sales professionals can quickly find genuine leads with the intent to purchase.

Gain the advantage of accurate, quality lead generation data from LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial of Sales Navigator at www.LinkedIn.com/TSE

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1538.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

While setting up discovery calls is the first half of the battle, the other half is getting the prospect to show up. And a great solution to drive attendance is by using a text message. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by founder and CEO of Salesmsg Chris Brisson to talk about how you can use text messaging to increase meeting show rates

SMS can be used for anything, from lead generation to conversion and engagement.

  • Sales is a three-step process: sign up, show up, and pay up. 
  • Creating a multichannel approach is the best way to drive attendance. A simple text message offers a simple last-minute reminder shortly before meetings.
  • We are a conversational society, so short messages with an understandable motive won't’ be considered spammy or annoying.

Implementing SMS software into your business:

  • If you want to test SMS messaging without a monetary investment, manually send a standard text message an hour before the meeting.
  • But to scale this process, a system is necessary.
  • With Salesmsg, you’ll have a way to respond to those messages if someone responds.
  • Remember, it’s not a general broadcast message - it’s conversational. 
  • SMS can also be the channel for micro-questions that need answering and lead to more meaningful discussions. 
  • To start a conversation with a prospect, ask simple questions that ease them into a conversation.

What are some ways to get the phone number of people?

  • Start today. And, depending on your business, the way you gather phone numbers might be different. 
  • You need an opt-in! Don’t just import a list and send mass text messages. (It isn’t legal.)
  • Include the proper language and start the conversation.
  • Providing your number first can help break the apprehension someone might have about supplying their number.

For access to case studies showing the advantage of SMS messaging for business, visit  customers.salesmessage.com. The SaaS Academy case study is particularly helpful to see how people can use SMS to make more money. Use this link for free access to Salesmsg’s Text Size Your Business PDF, and head over to salesmsg.com to start a free 14-day trial to get introduced to the platform. (They’re the #1 integration on HubSpot.) For more content from Chris, connect with him on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

The Great Resignation has become the Great Reshuffle, meaning it can be difficult for sales professionals like you to find leads and close deals. Luckily, Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is here for you!

Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is the only tool that uses real-time alerts and up-to-date insights to help you know when prospects are ready to buy. And, with over 30 advanced filters, sales professionals can quickly find genuine leads with the intent to purchase.

Gain the advantage of accurate, quality lead generation data from LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial of Sales Navigator at www.LinkedIn.com/TSE

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1537.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Discovery calls aren’t just the first part of the process - they’re where the close begins. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald will dive into seven common mistakes salespeople make when making discovery calls (and, more importantly, how you can fix them.) 

  1. Stop the lackluster pre-call prep.
  • We know back-to-back zoom meetings can be tiring. But from the prospect’s perspective, you have just one meeting. So come prepared!
  • It’s not just a discovery for you; it’s a discovery for the prospect to see if they’re interested in working with you.
  • Consider creating an agenda for the prospect to review before the meeting to ensure everyone gets what they want out of it.
  1. Don’t ask what you should already know.
  • Call the company ahead, speak to end-users, and get helpful information.
  • Entering the discovery call with the intel you need will set you apart as a salesperson and demonstrate the qualities you want to convey.
  1. Talk less
  • Salespeople should not be taking more than 40% of the time. Instead, ask questions that provoke the prospect to spend more time responding.
  1. Build a rapport.
  • Top performers engage in 17% less small talk than other salespeople.
  • When it comes to conversations with the prospect, don’t waste time on small talk that doesn’t contribute to a substantial discussion. 
  • Even if it isn’t necessarily related to your product, discuss things that further develop a relationship between you and the prospect. (AKA, not the weather.)
  1. Fully understand pain points.
  • Only 13% of customers believe a salesperson can understand their needs.
  • 44% of customers feel that only 25% of current providers help them maximize their value
  • As a salesperson, don’t be afraid to have the prospect explain their situation in detail, so you have a comprehensive understanding (and thus provide a comprehensive solution.)
  • Don’t ask a set standard of questions - ask clarifying and follow-up questions to get the most out of your interactions! 
  • While a scripted template of questions can be a starting point, it is far from the only thing you should ask. 
  1. Next steps
  • Don’t end a meeting without setting up a plan for the next one. Instead, consider setting aside the final five minutes of the meeting to ensure time to arrange the next steps. 
  1. Focus on the wrong competitors.
  • The biggest competitor you have isn’t a company; it’s the status quo.
  • People like keeping things the way they are. What about your product should make them embrace change?
  • 60-80% of deals end in no decision - meaning the prospects don’t see enough of a reason to change their current situation. 

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

The Great Resignation has become the Great Reshuffle, meaning it can be difficult for sales professionals like you to find leads and close deals. Luckily, Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is here for you!

Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is the only tool that uses real-time alerts and up-to-date insights to help you know when prospects are ready to buy. And, with over 30 advanced filters, sales professionals can quickly find genuine leads with the intent to purchase.

Gain the advantage of accurate, quality lead generation data from LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial of Sales Navigator at www.LinkedIn.com/TSE

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1536.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Prospecting is a critical element of the sales process. After all, how can you expect new business if you aren’t finding new prospects who can benefit from your product? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by entrepreneur and speaker AJ Vassar to discuss how to prepare yourself for better prospecting

Salespeople need new clients in their pipeline. 

  • Despite this, it’s an area where people are frequently challenged.
  • In sales, we learn ABC - always be closing. But, just as important is the idea of the prospecting ABC - always be connecting.
  • Connecting and establishing a network is integral to being a successful salesperson. But don’t just connect with random people; find people you can provide value to (and vice versa.)
  • When you also focus on connecting people with others, you’ll be top of mind in all instances. And that is a critical element to have.

What if a salesperson doesn't have time to connect with new people?

  • You have to make time. Connecting people with other people makes you an asset they’ll want to interact with (and hopefully do business with.)
  • If you help enough people get what they want, you’ll get what you want.
  • Relationships are like a bank account: Don’t make a withdrawal before making a deposit.

Using this skill on LinkedIn: 

  • If you’re connected on LinkedIn, what can you do in 10 minutes per day to find success?
  • One of AJ’s mentors is Ronald Jackson, retired three-star army general, ex-referee for the NBA, and professor at Georgia Tech.
  • The very first thing AJ asked him was, “tell me your goals, and what can I help you achieve?” People don’t mind talking about themselves - they love it.
  • And everyone, no matter how wealthy, has goals you might be able to help accomplish.

One major takeaway: The saying “your net worth is your network” is incredibly apt. But, more importantly, it’s not who you know, but who knows you. Follow AJ on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook for more great content.

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

The Great Resignation has become the Great Reshuffle, meaning it can be difficult for sales professionals like you to find leads and close deals. Luckily, Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is here for you!

Sales Navigator from LinkedIn is the only tool that uses real-time alerts and up-to-date insights to help you know when prospects are ready to buy. And, with over 30 advanced filters, sales professionals can quickly find genuine leads with the intent to purchase.

Gain the advantage of accurate, quality lead generation data from LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial of Sales Navigator at www.LinkedIn.com/TSE

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1535.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s no secret that mentors and coaches can be the extra push that gets us to the top. But how can we go about finding great mentors? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Gabrielle Blackwell (GB), co-founder of Women in Sales Club (which focuses on empowering and enabling women to succeed in sales), to discuss her tactics and strategy when finding and interacting with a potential mentor.

The problem: There’s a need for mentors.

  • When GB got into sales, she wanted to be the best. However, she needed to learn more first.
  • After suffering a concussion from a car accident, she needed to revitalize her efforts and get back on her sales feet. So, GB talked to people to evaluate if she was moving in the right direction.
  • Sales reps and leaders need to acknowledge that you don’t have to know everything.
  • Admitting you don’t know something requires an environment where you feel comfortable. And, upon noticing the discrepancy between what you know and what you need to know, you can ask for help.

People either want to change or have to change.

  • “I don’t know” needs to be normalized. 
  • And before management can care about meeting expectations, they need to show you how to meet those expectations. It’s their job to teach you. Part of advocating for yourself involves recognizing when you need to advocate for yourself.
  • A mentor is not going to fall in your lap.
  • Sandler’s You Can’t Teach a Kid to Ride a Bike at a Seminar discusses the Dummy Curve. (When you first start something, you ask questions. But as you learn more, you regurgitate what you know rather than listen to what’s happening around you.)

You don’t need to let people know how much you know.

  • If someone asked me to be a mentor, what is it you’re trying to accomplish? What is it about me that makes you uniquely qualified to be a mentor?
  • Who are subject matter experts at what you’re trying to get better at?
  • Once you target those people, consume their content—research what they’re doing. Approach them with questions and comments about their content and their work. Show the drive.

It’s such a show of strength to ask for help. If you know what you need help with, that’s great. But if you don’t know what you don’t know, that’s also great. For more great content from GB, sign up for the Women in Sales Club Newsletter and connect with her on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1534.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Many salespeople rely on assumptions about salespeople - think the cringe-inducing car salesman from movies. But while there’s truth in its origins, that description is no longer true to the modern salesperson. And while the modern salesperson embraces technology to achieve more, they often fall short. The takeaway? We aren’t getting better at selling. So how can we improve? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald brings on sales teacher, author, and consultant Andy Paul to discuss his strategy for revitalized selling.

While there are commonalities, there is more than one way to sell well.

  • The push to sales conformity is really for management, not the seller. Because management wants something predictable. However, the real world is more complicated. 
  • You learn, take those learnings and apply them to life. And you become the sum of your experience and knowledge. We all end up doing things differently, even if they lead to the same result.
  • Despite all the tools and technological advancements that benefit us, we aren’t getting better at selling. 
  • We have ready access to a world of information, so it should make for a better and more efficient buying experience. However, our win rates are dropping.
  • His book was a way of acknowledging the common sales behaviors, stopping, and doing only what works.

The problem starts with educating sellers on what their job is.

  • When asked “what’s your job?” The answer comes back “to persuade someone to buy my product.”
  • In reality, your job is to listen to the prospective buyer’s challenges and help them find resources to overcome those problems.
  • Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
  • The Catalyst by Jonah Berger - Human beings have a resistance to being persuaded.
  • Instead of persuasion, think about it from an influence perspective. Persuasion is coercive, while influence is affecting the actions of others without force. It’s a change in mindset.

Four Pillars of Changing Sales

  • Connection - Some people conflate a relationship with a friendship. While you don’t need to be friends with your buyers, you make connections in every interaction you have with them. Credibility and trust promote the relationship that makes a buyer choose to invest their time and energy into you. The seller is the first line of differentiation to the buyer. It costs you nothing to build a level of trust, but it does make a difference.
  • Curiosity - We understand the world through curiosity and asking questions. The currently accepted sales process has a tiny time fr discovery. But in reality, this process should happen in every conversation with the prospect or buyer. To be interesting to someone else, you first need to be interested in them.
  • Understanding - Our job is to listen to the most important thing to the buyer. What’s the context? A salesperson’s time to understand the buyer is a process that should never stop. Fully understand the buyer to determine how you can help them overcome challenges.
  • Generosity - Humans are wired to give and collectively support one another. It triggers reciprocity, and the purpose of your generosity is to achieve what is important for both parties.

Value exists only in the eyes of the buyer. The point you should achieve in sales is to help make a decision after an interaction. Were they closer to making a decision at the end of a call? If not, why did you have the meeting? 

We don’t have a lot of control over our lives. But the baseline choices we make as sellers can help achieve what’s most important to them, which is all the difference you might need to make a sale. 

Andy’s Manifesto - Sign it (especially as a sales leader)

Go to his website andypaul.com, Amazon, or anyplace books are sold to check out and order his book TITLE. SIgn his manifesto 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1533.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

More people use LinkedIn now than ever before. Is it the promised land? Not quite. But it’s still an excellent resource to find leads, start conversations, and ultimately convert connections. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by authentic seller and co-host of the making Sales Social Podcast Bill McCormick to discuss generating conversations that convert on everyone’s favorite professional social media platform. 

Three groups of people to understand on LinkedIn:

  • The Lion: The people with a ton of connections they might not know very well. (Recruiters are a great example of this group.)
  • The Purist: People who only connect with people in their industry or area. While they have high-quality connections, they don’t have very many.
  • The Networker: People who see LinkedIn as a networking room open to connecting with new people. This group is the median between the Lion and the Purist.

A critical part of every LinkedIn connection strategy is the introduction.

  • How many times do you connect without interacting with your contacts? Probably more than you think.
  • In fact, you’re likely already connected to your ideal contacts, but you forgot about them.
  • Bombbomb is a great resource to send video introduction messages that stand out and encourage communication with one another. It fosters conversation.

Conversations aren’t rocket science.

  • Even with the free LinkedIn platform, you can filter potential contacts based on area, industry, and more criteria. (The takeaway: you don’t always need Sales Navigator.)
  • We listen with our eyes. (Yes, you heard and read that right.) 
  • Being a helpful resource to prospects, even if that means working with someone other than you, is the best way to approach social selling and build credibility.
  • Determine what kind of content is helpful to your prospect’s problems. But instead of just sending a link, ask to send the link. And only send it if they ask for it.
  • Sharing content correctly conveys the trust and credibility that establishes yourself as a thought leader.

Only 2% of LinkedIn users share content.

  • You differentiate yourself by sharing content at least once per week. (Posting twice a week is even crazier.)
  • You want your content to resonate with your followers before you pitch.
  • Then, create curiosity. Make your audience think about something they’ve never thought about before. Teach them something new about their product or platform.
  • Ask yourself if you’re creating curiosity or just pitching. Only then can you worry about disseminating content.
  • Content should be a mixture of one-to-many, one-to-few, and one-to-one. Variety is the spice of life (and your LinkedIn feed)

Final tip: LinkedIn is the Rolodex of today. You can search their connections and see if they can connect you with others. To get Bill’s referral formula, connect with him on LinkedIn. Subscribe to his podcast, Making Sales Social, which features interviews with top sales and marketing leaders and strategic tips to master LinkedIn. Finally, become a free member of Social Sales Link to access a free library of resources, from masterclasses to platform optimization tips.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1532.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Video is one of the most successful and valuable tactics salespeople can implement to land more meetings and reach higher sales goals. But it can be challenging to start without understanding the basics. On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Vidyard’s VP of Marketing and Chief Video Strategist Tyler Lessard to discuss how you can start integrating video content into your outreach campaigns.

Common Video Mistakes:

  • The largest mistake is the perception of video in today’s business world. Video is no longer a one-to-many, high-quality product like movies and advertisements. Now it’s about connection, not perfection.
  • Video is just a new mode to communicate with prospects like phone calls, social media, and traditional email. However, short videos are a visual medium that drastically help create a connection.
  • You don’t need a scripted, rehearsed monologue. The goal is authenticity.
  • A viewer can see the passion and excitement for the product or service that email just can’t quite convey, making it a more emotionally effective strategy than traditional messaging.

Subject LIne Best Practices:

  • People typically send video messages as an email. Therefore, getting people to open the email is your greatest challenge.
  • Teasing a video in the subject line piques curiosity and stands out from what’s happening out there, resulting in higher open rates.
  • When people end video the same way they send emails, it doesn't feel right. These videos are an opportunity to convey authenticity and show passion, likely with a more interest-based CTA. 
  • If you can incorporate something immediately relatable to your audience, it can stimulate higher engagement. 

How creative do you need to be to send video content?

  • You don’t need to be a creative video-maker. However, be creative in your messaging. For example, visiting a prospect’s LinkedIn profile with a screen-share to show something you notice.
  • Consider filming pre-meeting and post-meeting videos. Even if it’s a short, 20-second reminder, it creates a rhythm of communication and increases the meeting show rate.
  • Post-meeting, send a video recap to attendees and people who missed the meeting, which increases your exposure and familiarity with the team.

Tyler’s final takeaway? Whatever industry you’re in, video is here to stay and now is the time to figure out how you can use it to communicate your ideas. Vidyard has a tremendous amount of free resources for salespeople on their website, vidyard.com. Get in touch with Tyler on LinkedIn for more resources and content. His book, The Visual Sale, is available on Amazon. Check out co-author Marcus Sheridan’s appearance on The Sales Evangelist. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1531.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Converting web leads is the dream for virtually every B2B company. What if we told you there’s a way to increase the conversion rate for web visitors by as much as double your current rates? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by co-founder and CEO of Chili Piper, Nicolas Vandenberghe, to discuss how his SaaS platform does just that.

Only a fraction of website visitors turns into sales leads.

  • The key to improving your conversion rate is to automate your inbound process. 
  • The old inbound strategy depended on a human salesperson reaching out to a prospect (typically based on a form submission.)
  • This humanist delay can result in up to days of lag time between the form and the response. And the business world is just too fast-paced for that.
  • Speed to Lead helps overcome this issue by automating the qualification process and scheduling meetings in real-time.

Prequalification is critical to faster client acquisition.

  • You don’t want to waste time interacting with a potential client who won’t be suitable for your product. (And conversely, you shouldn’t want to waste their time.)
  • Because so much data is available, clients can be pre-qualified automatically. For example, prequalification based on company size or revenue is easily accessible information that can be automatically checked with the initial form submission.
  • Qualifying based on intent is trickier, but it can be accomplished through observing website visit frequency to gauge intent.

Consider reallocating manpower to positions only humans can do.

  • Human beings are better at influencing and building trust, which is why Nicholas recommends inbound SDRs be reallocated to outbound SDR positions. 
  • Many elements of the inbound process are menial and repetitive, like scheduling meetings and answering form submissions. People don’t need to spend so much time on the administrative elements of the profession.
  • The added value of a real salesperson is in our ability to influence - something machines just can't do as effectively.

Nicolas’s final takeaway? The beauty of machines is that you can continually optimize them to better serve you and your prospects. You can experiment with which criteria are most important and adjust accordingly. Decisions are made fast, and they go to the fastest-moving person. So don’t let a lag time in inbound messaging cause slow sales cycles that result in opportunity loss. If you're interested in demoing this automated conversion platform, visit chilipiper.com. (They use their tool, so we’re sure you’ll be contacted promptly.)

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1530.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

There aren’t many people in the world who look forward to cold calling. (And if you're one of those people, you deserve an award.) But if you want to see an immediate improvement in your cold outreach, there are two things your prospects should know as soon as you start your first interaction. Find out what those are on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist. 

1: Who are you?

  • Your initial outreach should include your name (we hope that’s obvious). Still, it should also include the relevant information about you that will ease prospect anxiety and make them more receptive to what you have to say.
  • This information could be how you found them, like LinkedIn or at a networking event. Even better, you could reference other people in the company the prospect works with, and that they suggested the connection. 

2: What do you want?

  • Once a prospect understands who you are, the seller must explain why they’re calling.
  • Typically, there’s a reason you selected these specific people to cold call. As a result, you (hopefully) know a few pain points that you can use to prompt them into a conversation.
  • They might not be receptive to an interaction at this particular time, but in explaining what you want, even if it’s just to schedule a follow-up meeting to discuss if your product is right for them, they’ll be more likely to agree to the next step.
  • Remember, you call dozens of similar people each day; you have experience and knowledge beneficial to these prospects. 

This two-part strategy is necessary for any cold outreach campaign, whether on the phone, email, or LinkedIn networking. Bring value to the table, and you’ll have a better chance of landing that next appointment. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1529.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Many salespeople dream of reaching the illustrious seven-figure earners club. But how can you achieve this goal? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Brandon Fluharty to discuss his seven-step framework for making seven figures in enterprise SaaS sales

There are core truths to seven-figure selling: 

  • You’re likely selling to large enterprise companies. While you can do it with small and medium-sized companies, it is challenging.
  • You have experience (and confidence) selling to large clients. 
  • You need the patience to endure incredibly long sales cycles.
  1. Get in the right environment.
  • Find your “Goldilocks” situation concerning your ideal workplace, whatever that may be.
  • What kind of internal infrastructure do you need to feel comfortable and successful?
  1. Build a transformation mindset
  • Seven-figure earners sell a transformation that doesn’t just solve an issue; it prevents the problem from happening again. 
  • In SaaS, you want to be the player touching multiple parts of the business. And that takes a transformational mindset.
  1. Be strategic about your target account list.
  • Sell to clients that give you purpose. Identify the reasons you like you prefer your ideal client, and search for more that fit those criteria. 
  • Doing so keeps you motivated during dishearteningly long sales cycles that enterprise companies have.
  1. Create a standard no one else delivers.
  • The Diamond Standard - Picture a coal field in your competitive scenario, and be the diamond for your clients. 
  • It is easier to perform to this standard when working with the clients you are interested in and passionate about.
  1. Break through personal limitations
  • The higher you climb, the more imposter syndrome you’ll feel. For example, Brandon initially thought his introversion limited his success. 
  • But, as he climbed the ranks, Brandon realized he could listen more than talk. And that weakness turned into a strength.
  • Write down traits you feel hold you back. Then, how can you repurpose those and turn them into strengths?
  1. Rally others inside your organization
  • Nothing great is achieved alone. And when you’re talking about seven and eight-figure deals, you’ll need help. 
  • Be a generalist with your skillset, but be a specialist with your outcome.
  • Be confident that you’re engaged and can make an impact. Don’t dictate; collaborate.
  1. Develop a personal operating system
  • Move out of hustle culture and work more intelligently.
  • DFC: Discipline, flexibility, and curiosity. Anything with a start, middle, and end should utilize these components.
  • PREP: Plan, Rest, Effort, Performance. 
  • Balance these two frameworks to operate and live life instead of hustling around the clock. (It’s a much more humanistic approach.)

Follow Brandon on LinkedIn for more content, information, and insights. Subscribe to his bi-weekly email newsletter Be Focused, LIve Great for a discounted copy of his e-book upon its release! 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1528__rev.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

As we enter the new year, there’s no time like the present to set new goals and embrace the productive mindset you’ve always wanted. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by lifelong businessman, best-selling author, and coach Brad Sugars to discuss how you can revolutionize your thinking

Revolutionize your mindset to get to the next level:

  • It starts with the acknowledgment that your attitude needs to change.
  • Brad’s formula for success: Dreams x Goals x Learning x Planning x Action. Getting to that next level involves all five of these components.
  • Many of us are taught not to “bite off more than we can chew.” But change often means diving into the deep end and moving past our comfort zones.

But why should you jump into the deep end? 

  • Immersing yourself in a new way of doing things creates a new identity, and that identity shift is the change people need.
  • Put yourself in situations where you aren’t the smartest or most productive person in the room. Doing so gives you the push to grow and learn. 
  • Instead of looking to beat your average quarter, beat your best quarter. You never see sports professionals aim to perform above their average; they aim to perform above their best.

Your goal is not your glass ceiling. 

  • Don’t let a low goal influence your ability to thrive.
  • Pick your favorite mentor growing up. How would you be different if you got to sit with them for thirty minutes for the next 90 days?

Brad’s quick lead generation advice:

  • What are most salespeople using for lead generation? Email, social media, and other standard practices.
  • What are they missing? Simply asking who is interested; they’re trying to make a sale rather than see who’s interested.
  • If someone expresses interest, that’s the ideal person to start a conversation with,

Brad’s final takeaway? Set goals, don’t be the smartest person in the room, and grow into your goals. (Because if you knew how to achieve that goal today, you’d already be doing it.)

Visit Brad’s website at https://bradsugars.com/ for more content and information. Contact him on LinkedIn, Instagram, or Twitter and mention you came from Donald’s podcast to receive 90% off his 90-day course. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1527.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Differentiation is critical when operating as a B2B seller. But what’s the best way to differentiate and ensure you earn more money? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by management strategist Lee B. Salz to understand how to effectively set yourself apart in B2B sales

Why does Lee have a passion for B2B sales strategy?

  • The short answer? Golden Girls. The long answer? Lee needed a job his junior year of high school, so he was hired to drive the vehicle for a dry cleaning delivery service. 
  • Lee was fascinated that people were willing to spend more for the convenience of delivered dry cleaning. However, it was only certain people - those with long work commutes. Those who worked local found it unneceessary. 
  • The takeaway? Understand who gets meaningful value from what you’re selling, because not everyone will.

Find the people who see meaningful value in what you’re selling.

  • Visit targetclientprofile.com to download a free worksheet to identify your target profile client.
  • It’s not an ideal client profile; it’s a target profile client. Ideal is who you want to sell to in a perfect world. Target clients are who you can and should sell to today (and any day of the week.)
  • Your product won’t be meaningful to everyone. If something is marketed to everyone, it’s marketed to no one. Some people just won’t see value in your product.

Innovation happens everywhere. 

  • As long as someone sees value in your innovation, there’s place for it in the market.
  • There are always people who are going to compete against you. It’s one of the oldest comparisons you see - salespeople are the athletes of the business world. 
  • But one difference completely invalidates the comparison. Professional athletes work behind the scenes to deliver flawless performance. Salespeople, on the other hand, play the game without improving their performance. 

What can you do today to improve your game? 

  • It takes the work, research, and tools to be a professional.
  • Competition has never been more fierce. And if we’re being honest, the differences between your product and your competition’s product is probably insignificant.
  • Despite these more minor differences, how many companies are lowering quotas? None. Salespeople are expected to win at higher rates.
  • You have to take a step back and look at every touchpoint in the buyer’s journey to analyze where you can outsmart and outsell a competitor. (Which is exactly what Lee discusses in his book.)

Lee’s major takeaway? Don’t just sell; sell differently. Look at your touchpoints, discovery meetings, customer service, and every aspect of your sales practice to identify what you can do differently. To stay up-to-date on Lee’s content and practice, follow him on LinkedIn. Read the first chapter of his new book for free at selldifferentbook.com

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1526.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

For many salespeople, a change in mindset encourages growth as you cultivate your sales practice. And on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by sales consultant and speaker Natasha Hemmingway to learn her 5-step formula to rewire the brain and think like a sales pro. With 16 years of corporate sales experience (and multiple years as a professional sales consultant), Natasha believes that sales changes everything. It gives us access, opportunities to impact and influence others and help solve their problems.

Step One: Mindset

  • Many sales teams focus exclusively on the numbers, hustling for new clients purely for financial gain. But this mentality just doesn’t help anyone.
  • Selling with heart means putting the client at the front of your selling technique. Serving them should be your priority. 
  • Selling is a partnership just as much as it is a transaction, and it is the willingness to walk away from a deal if it isn’t right for the prospect.

Step Two: Communication 

  • Communication cannot come without the proper mindset, and it requires an understanding of what you’re selling and who you’re selling it to.
  • In your communication, come from a place of confidence, ease, and grace.
  • Most small and mid-size companies need to focus on their main thing. Selling dozens of slightly different products doesn’t encourage a purchase; it prevents it.
  • Developing your authentic sales voice will help the client determine their best purchase (which should be your goal.)

Step Three: Energy 

  • How are you showing up to work? People know if you’re nervous, anxious, or just want money. You just can’t hide it. 
  • Without the proper energy, you will encounter challenges converting sales and finding growth, regardless of how good your product or service might be.

Step Four: A sales process 

  • Solo entrepreneurs, small businesses, and even medium-sized businesses frequently don’t have a sales process. 
  • If you wing your sales process, you’re likely repeating the same mistakes. A sales process quickly helps increase conversions and prevent these mistakes. 
  • At a minimum, a sales process should detail the components of a sales call, pricing, follow-up, and closing.

Step Five: A sales strategy 

  • Even if your business is similar to fifty other people, your sales strategy and process are likely quite different. 
  • People (especially in the sales world) mimic what they believe is successful. But can you deliver your authentic self while trying to be someone else? (Hint: No.)

Natasha’s main takeaway? If you aren’t communicating and touching the human behind the payment, there’s a critical gap in your sales process. Connect with Natasha on LinkedIn or Instagram, and visit natashahemmingway.com for free downloads, sales quizzes, and other excellent resources.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1525.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Many salespeople have a misconstrued mindset about mindset itself, hindering success and costing more money. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald discusses five common sales misconceptions and how to overcome them. So start the new year by overcoming these common misconceptions.

Myth #1: Mindset is a soft skill and can’t be proven to result.

  • Yes, motivational things are important and cool. But pep talk motivation has a purpose - it helps you perform. If your mind is game-ready, the performance will follow.
  • Mindset isn’t just your motivation; it’s the way you think. Motivation is only a tiny (but necessary) part of that.

Myth #2: I don’t need mindset, I can just hustle and complete tactics.

  • When you get to a certain point, “hustling” only gets you so far.
  • People who shatter records, earn promotions, and go beyond their current limit need more than hustle; they need the proper mindset.
  • Research shows 80% of our daily thoughts are negative, and we do this to keep ourselves in our comfort zones. 
  • Mindset training teaches you to combat and subvert those subconscious thoughts.

Myth #3: I don’t need mindset training to strengthen my mind.

  • Even the most mentally tough person on Earth has another level they can reach.
  • People sell themselves short to avoid disappointment down the line. But you can definitely do more. And mindset coaches help with that.

Myth #4: Mindsets are an either-or proposition

  • Mindset by Carol Dweck establishes the dichotomy of a fixed or growth mindset. But the truth is, it’s not an either-or situation. You can be both!
  • We have thoughts on both sides of the scale, between overcoming negativity in the workplace to our goals and career aspirations. 

Myth #5: Anyone can do anything

  • Okay, this sounds pessimistic. But it’s simply reality. You can’t grow wings. You can’t breathe in space. And, most likely, you won’t make the NBA. There are things you can’t or shouldn’t do.
  • Understanding this doesn't mean you have a bad mindset. Instead, it encourages you to shift your focus to things you have control, which allows you to see greater results.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1524.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Remote and hybrid work environments can be challenging. Back-to-back Zoom calls quickly blur together, and many salespeople find that, even with note-taking, there are gaps in recollection when the follow-up meeting arrives. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Richard White to discuss his sales app, Fathom, which helps address and overcome these sales issues

Salespeople juggle note-taking, conducting conversations, and remembering essential elements of meetings for later discussions.

  • Because of this huge workflow, it’s easy for things to fall through the cracks.
  • So, Richard built the free app Fathom for Zoom that records, transcribes, and (most importantly) highlights key moments of calls so you can focus on having an actual conversation.

In a typical call, only 15% of the conversation is note-worthy.

  • That means 85% of the conversation probably isn’t very important. And that 85% drowns out the 15% pretty quickly.
  • As a salesperson, you’re routinely giving pitches, answering questions, and overcoming similar objections across clients and prospects. Remembering the different results of these similar conversations gets increasingly difficult as you have more meetings.
  • Notes are incredibly helpful to help prep before a follow-up call. Rather than stress about what was discussed and where you left off, Fathom provides a short highlight reel with that 15% of important information.

How can this app and system help a remote sales rep or leader?

  • Fathom’s video highlights are compiled with a sales methodology. Timeline, pain points, and other noteworthy topics are automatically flagged to revisit later.
  • Zoom has cloud recording, but you often don’t get the recording until thirty minutes after the call. Because Fathom is real-time, so you get it immediately.
  • Several platforms provide helpful coaching metrics, but that’s only after the call. Fathom’s real-time recording alerts you during the call if you’ve been monologuing, helping provide the best experience possible for the prospect.  
  • The goal is to perform smarter, not harder.

The main takeaway from this episode? Zoom calls don’t have to be as stressful as they are. Visit fathom.video/pod to skip the waitlist and get this free tool for yourself, and connect with Richard on LinkedIn for more great updates and content.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1523.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Back-to-back meetings can drain your mental energy and, subsequently, your commission check. Working a hybrid of virtual and in-person work can be challenging while caring for your physical and mental health. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by master sales trainer and Sales Gravy coach Gina Trimarco to discuss her strategy to find balance in a world where salespeople are expected to do everything.

Twelve years of owning a sales company (and an improv theatre) taught Gina important life lessons. 

  • Namely, the soft skills of improv help people be more organic in their sales efforts.
  • Donald didn’t make his college’s improv team. Not that we’re holding a grudge or anything.
  • More importantly, in those roles, Gina realized the importance and the need to set healthy boundaries between her work and personal life. 

 

People think they can do more than they should.

  • This issue was drastically increased during the pandemic - we went from an in-person world to virtual seemingly overnight. 
  • Now that things are opening again (although we’re eyeing that omicron variant), there’s an expectation to continue virtual meetings while resuming in-person, depending on the prospect’s preference. 
  • Gina realized this situation was getting out of hand when she scheduled calls in transit at 6 a.m. Constant availability is simply not sustainable.

 

But what’s the detriment to getting more done?

  • The 24/7 hustle fatigues you in every way possible, professionally, physically, and mentally. You’ll notice declines in productivity and a lack of focus when you don’t have space to relax and decompress.
  • From the virtual selling perspective, limit how much time you spend on zoom per day. The zoom fatigue is real.
  • Google Calendar can automatically install buffer time in-between meetings. Make that a standard scheduling practice to ensure you give yourself the time you need.

Respect your boundaries.

  • If you’re someone who agrees to every work and meeting invite, block segments on your calendar for family, travel, and personal time. 
  • Set the precedent that you need time away from a conversation.

Leadership needs to stay hyperaware of their teams.

  • As a leader, you want to get the most out of your team. But if you notice cracks in the foundation of someone’s work, that should be a reason to pause and pay attention. 
  • Support that person when they need it. They won’t always need the space, but you need to respect it when they do.
  • Regularly check in to see how your team is doing. Identify their thoughts on the balance between in-person and virtual work and provide a space for honesty.
  • Look at the numbers - is there a decline in productivity? That could be because of a lack of boundaries and overextended employees.

Contact Gina at gina@salesgravy.com, or connect with her on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Facebook. You can also check out her website, call her at (843)-597-6393, and tune in to her podcast Women My Mother Warned Me About. (You can check out Donald’s guest episode here.)

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1522.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Without sales, companies wouldn’t generate revenue! And with hundreds of thousands of niches and topics for sales professionals, creating an effective hiring strategy is critical for companies to fill their team with qualified and creative talent. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Jerry Brooner, President of Global Field Operations at Enable, to discuss his best sales hiring practices.

Finding and keeping good talent is a warzone.

  • To be clear, there is no shortage of talent. But many hiring managers just aren’t searching in the right places for the right people.
  • For example, hiring managers who look only in major U.S. cities completely ignore the rest of the country (let alone the rest of the world.) 
  • In reality, there are intelligent and capable people no matter where you go, and they all bring different perspectives to a team.

Jerry’s strategies to recruit a diverse team: 

  • First, think about what’s important for the company and the sales team. In most instances, that means a wider array of diversity and experiences.
  • Jerry’s team searches not only in different states and countries but also beyond the major areas of those places. So, for example, when recruiting in the UK, they check locations besides London.

How to plan a recruitment strategy: 

  • Work backward. Look at your customers, your team’s territories, and the industries those territories fall in, and look for knowledgeable people in those areas.
  • Make entry-level jobs entry-level. Determine if the number of years of experience you’ve selected is essential. Most of the time, it isn’t.
  • Look for accomplishments rather than years of experience to ensure everyone has an opportunity for consideration.

Addressing and fostering diversity in his own company:

  • Jerry believes that diversity is his company’s biggest asset, but he acknowledges that you must prioritize it. Focus on a diversity of country, gender, and race to create a team capable of understanding and interacting with clients in prospects in a way that works best for them.
  • Don’t look to fill a diversity quota; look to fill roles with good people. You just can’t get the best people by searching one location.
  • If you’re hiring entry-level BDRs, don’t just go to the same three or four colleges. Instead, broaden your selections to find candidates beyond those institutions. 

Jerry’s final word of advice? The sales profession is made better with a diverse group of people. In the long term, we’ll all be better for it. For more information or to contact Jerry, reach out to him at jerry@enable.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1521.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s easy to make simple mistakes when setting goals for the new year, especially if you quickly fall back into the same habits as you did the previous year. So on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald discusses the three mistakes salespeople make when setting goals and how you can prevent those same pitfalls. And happy birthday to Donald’s sister, Jessica! 

1. Don’t set huge goals without a plan.

  • A Harvard study revealed that people aren’t likely to succeed in huge goals.
  • The key is to set micro-goals that are far easier to obtain and make you happier.
  • The 12-Week Year concept is powerful because it does precisely that - breaks down an overarching goal into smaller, easier-to-obtain segments.
  • Whether it’s to make a million dollars in sales or lose a certain amount of weight, micro-goals are far easier to obtain than a massive goal.

2. Be more descriptive when setting goals

  • 65% of the population are visual people, and it’s natural for humans to think in pictures.
  • If you have a goal in mind, making it descriptive allows you to visualize and thus better understand why the goal is important in the first place. 
  • If your goal is to hit a quota, what are the benefits of hitting that quota? Associate the benefits and results of the goal with the goal itself to overcome objections you might create for yourself.
  • To learn more about the benefits and how to engage in a descriptive mindset, check out the Sales Evangelist Sales Mindset Training Program

3. Set a goal, not a dream.

  • It takes discipline to accomplish a goal. And you might have habits that are in direct conflict with achieving a goal.
  • You can’t just wish on a plan - set it up and designate steps to accomplish that goal to see it come true!

4. Of course, a bonus: Believe in yourself!

  • Whether in personal or professional goals, many people don’t believe in their ability to reach them.
  • Affirmations are a great way to affirm your beliefs in yourself. The problem - they’re typically too vague,
  • Keep them in the present tense, keep them visual, and keep them descriptive. It’s a great way to force yourself to believe in yourself and your goals.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1520.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today’s special episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast looks back on five of the best episodes of 2021. (If you were wondering, yes, it was a tough decision.) Check out the links to visit each episode if you missed it to listen! 

Episode 1508: Insight-Led Selling: Adopting An Executive Mindset To Learn How Buyers Think with Dr. Stephen Timme and Melody Astley

Episode 1505: How To Develop Your Account-Based Strategy Outreach Messaging with Scott Leese

  • In this episode discussing account-based outreach strategies, Scott stressed the importance of the message above all else- if you’re going to reach out to a prospect, target messages to the prospect.
  • Don’t make the conversation about yourself - initial outreach should get into some dialogue or discussion where the prospect is the center.
  • For more great content from Scott, check out his podcast, The Surf and Sales Podcast.

Episode 1493: 3 Things Every Seller Needs To Know About The Future Of Selling

  • Sales and marketing must come together. It’s no longer enough to work in tandem - they must be integrated to drive revenue. 
  • An integrated experience should put the customer journey first versus different departments judging success based on different outcomes. 

Episode 1425: Objections: How To Overcome The Most Common Objections In B2B Sales with Nadia Rashid

  • Nadia has a four-step process to overcoming prospect objections: listen, understand and validate, respond, and confirm.
  • Whenever you encounter an objection you aren’t sure how to address, there is no shame in admitting that. However, commit to finding an answer and make a proactive effort to address it later.
  • For more great content from Nadia, follow her on LinkedIn.

Episode 1514: How “The Practice” And Being Different Can Help Sellers Connect With More Prospects with Seth Godin

  • Google didn’t succeed because of a stellar sales team- Google succeeded because Google made a product that sold itself.
  • If you want to measure salespeople based solely on the outcome, figure out how to normalize it based on what you’re selling.
  • Juggling isn’t about catching; it’s about throwing. If you get good at the practice of your job, the results take care of themselves.
  • Make sure to check out Seth’s book The Practice for more awesome content and advice. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1519.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

As we move into 2022, there’s no time like the present to set new goals and be prepared for the year ahead. So what is Donald doing to prepare for 2022?  He’s adding three books to his reading list (and you should too.)

The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks:

  •  Getting past your comfort zone can be a challenge. When it comes to quotas, commissions, and sales targets, many salespeople trap themselves into thinking that they can only do a certain amount. 
  • But I’ll ask you this - why can’t you make more? Don’t be your own worst enemy!
  • If your company limits your commissions, maybe it's time to find a new job to break through and get to the next level. 

The Billion Dollar Secret by Rafael Badziag:

  • This guy interviewed billionaire people and asked them what it takes to make a billion dollars.
  • You may not get a billion dollars in sales revenue yourself, but why can’t you get six or seven figures?
  • Get past limits you set yourself to unlock more money for you.
  • Salespeople reap what they sow - focusing on the ideal customer who makes more significant purchases can be what brings onto the 7-figure level.

The 12 Week Year by Brian Moran:

  • Salespeople are super productive between October and December because of the shorter quarter. But why can’t you have this same urgency throughout the year?
  • The 12 Week Year breaks down overarching goals into smaller, 12-week-long goals that help you achieve whatever goals you’ve set for yourself.

And now, the bonus book: Donald’s Sales Planner!

  • (Yes, this is a shameless plug.) When searching for a sales planner, Donald realized those in the market weren’t what he wanted. 
  • Instead of a reactive planner, he wanted one that kept him focused on his goals and moving forward.
  • His planner encourages you to focus on tasks that directly correlate to success by utilizing the 12-week concept framework.
  • It features a performance tracker at the end of each day or week.
  • It is a 3-month planner, promoting focus on each quarter, and features a performance tracker for each day and week to ensure you’re on track to reach quotas.
  • Even if you don’t use this planner, plan! Spend 30 minutes each day planning the next day to see more success in the new year. 
  • To order the planner for the start of 2022, visit thesalesevangelist.com/salesplanner.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1518__rev.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Disclaimer: This episode isn’t to convince listeners to become Christians; it’s to highlight how Jesus Christ persuaded people (a crucial sales trait.)

As we near Christmas Day, we thought it would be fun to revisit an episode from the TSE Archives. In this episode, Donald kicked off his “Best Sellers in History” series with Jesus Christ. How did he start a movement, persuade people, and convince people to change their lives? Well, he sold them on the idea! And here are the seven reasons he was so successful:

He Showed Sympathy and Built Rapport:

  • Even when nobody else would, he sat with ordinary people and those marginalized by society.
  • People didn’t understand these actions, but Jesus shared that a physician comes to heal the sick, not the healthy.
  • In the same way, Jesus spent time with people who needed his help the most. 

He made an impact:

  • Jesus modeled how he wanted people to treat one another.
  • As a sales rep, set yourself apart from others by understanding your prospect's pain points and then offering a solution. 
  • Consider writing a blog or creating content related to your prospect's challenges. 

He Was a Skilled Storyteller:

  • In one instance, a man tried to trap Jesus while preaching by asking him how to receive eternal life. In response, Jesus replied with a question about what was written in the law. 
  • The lawyer replied that one should love the Lord with all his heart, soul, and strength and love his neighbor as he loves himself.  
  • He then asked Jesus who he should consider his neighbor, and Jesus shared the story of the Good Samaritan.
  • The story of the Good Samaritan was relatable, and the people listening understood the point he was making. 

He Shared a Vision

  • People believed in Jesus because he fulfilled prophecies laid out in scripture. When Jesus preached, people listened to his message of hope.
  • As a sales rep, understand a prospect’s pain points and challenges. As you get to know them, you’ll have the opportunity to offer hope through your product or service.

He Challenged the Status Quo:

  • Challenging the status quo helped people trust Jesus to make the right decisions.
  • In sales, we can experience the status quo and get stuck in familiar patterns. The most daunting competitor isn’t another sales rep but your client’s comfort zone.
  • The conversation may be bold, but sometimes it takes boldness to get people to change. 

He Listened Effectively

  • Throughout his ministry, Jesus listened to people’s stories and showed mercy and compassion. 
  • As a salesperson, imitate Jesus by listening to your prospects. Whether through a phone conversation, a LinkedIn post, or an email, listen to what they say. 
  • Go through reports, annual filings, and quarterly earnings to better understand a prospect’s pain points and focus on what they say rather than what you can say next.

He Asked Powerful Questions

  • In sales, you don’t have to give your prospects an answer right away if additional questions or clarifications are needed.  
  • When you hear “I’m not interested,” don’t take that at face value and end the conversation. 
  • In every objection you face, you can learn more and get closer to finding a solution.

He Invited People to Change

  • Jesus asked people to do hard things. He gathered his disciples early in his ministry and told them to leave their livelihood as fishermen to become fishers of men.
  • When salespeople ask clients to use their products or services, you invite change to occur. 
  • Be proactive, ask for change, and be prepared to show prospects the action steps. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1517.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Cold outreach can be the worst part of your day for most salespeople. But if you had an easy-to-follow strategy, would that make it better? (Our answer: absolutely!) In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Rachel Pitts, co-host of Women Your Mother Warned You About, to discuss five cold outreach strategies to use in 2022.

Rachel’s selling journey started in real estate:

  • Rachel started her real estate journey during the 2008 market crash (AKA a lousy time to start), where she worked for ten years. 
  • After later working in the mortgage industry, she realized her dream was to own a dance studio. And now, she is a full-time dance studio owner. (Congratulations, Rachel!)

Why are people afraid of the phone?

  • Well, there are many reasons. But namely, people believe nobody answers.
  • But coming out of COVID, people are isolated and more willing to answer the phone. Plus, communicating over the phone is better at fostering personal connections.
  • Many salespeople are afraid they’re bothering others. But, as a salesperson, you are a professional interrupter. You should interrupt people.
  • However, learn how to interrupt efficiently that doesn’t piss people off.

Five Strategies You Should Use:

  1. Call your existing contacts, and ask if they know anyone who needs your product or service. Consider it a warm-up; you likely already know these people to some capacity, and you’re more likely to have a positive conversation with them. 
  2. Leave a voicemail. One of the great courses offered at Sales Gravy University is the fanatical prospecting boot camp (based on Jeb Blount’s book Fanatical Prospecting.) Be clear and concise. Say your name, your company, and the prospect's direct opportunity by calling. (And, of course, a return phone number.)
  3. Get to the point. People like to know the reason for things. By clearly stating your reason for calling, you’re giving the prospect an early opportunity to decide if they care to listen or not.
  4. Schedule the next call, and make that the mission of your call. If they’re busy, offer a follow-up time to continue the conversation, and get their email as a backup to send them your calendar.
  5. Develop a creative strategy to supplement your outcome. For example, when selling a mortgage, it’s boring. So, Rachel did singing parodies. And it differentiated her from everyone else. Whatever you love to do, lean into that and find a way to incorporate it into your work.

To contact Rachel, find her on Instagram at both @ultrafiftlifestyle and @thesinginglender, or send her an email at rachel@salesgravy.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1516.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

While we might be in a post-pandemic world, the myriad of zoom calls is here to stay. But, for any professional, creating and maintaining professional virtual relationships is more complex than in-person. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by actor, author, and founder of Selling On-Video Master Class Julie Hansen to learn how to better engage our virtual audiences

When transitioning from theatre to camera, she had to practice communication.

  • When everyone went virtual, Julie noticed other people struggling (as she was) to communicate through a camera.
  • So, she created her masterclass to teach skills salespeople could apply to their virtual sales techniques.
  • She also wrote an Amazon bestselling book, Look Me In the Eye, to further educate people in virtual communication.

Communicating with a client whose video is off can be challenging.

  • The value of having your video on is huge. Even if the prospect is unseen, looking at the camera as if they’re speaking will create a stronger relationship.
  • Salespeople tend to assume the worst - that the client is bored, disengaged, or not paying attention. And that attitude tends to bring out the worst in the salespeople, resulting in skipping ahead and rushing through content.
  • Visualize the prospect having a great reaction, even if you can’t see it, because it encourages you to maintain positive momentum.

Resist the urge to watch yourself:

  • Never have your own image on; you’ll focus on your faults and be entirely out of the moment. (Remember, It’s not a mirror!)
  • While Julie recommends setting your camera as close to the screen or image as possible, remember that humans are precise with eye contact. So even if it’s off by only a couple of inches, most people will recognize that.
  • In general, look directly at the camera whenever someone else is speaking. (Yes, it’s counterintuitive, but it’s true!)

How can you better engage with virtual prospects?

  • Break the passive pattern of the virtual call - especially if there’s more than one person.
  • When we get in front of a screen, we're trained to be in a receiving mode- looking at something, reading something, or typing something. We aren’t usually engaged with other people.
  • To break that, use the power of eye contact. People will feel more compelled to respond when you look at the camera.
  • Whenever you want someone to respond to what you’re saying, look directly at the camera (rather than the screen) to indicate you’d like a verbal response.

In-person communication utilizes much more body language than we realize. But if your face has nothing to say, why are you on video? Being expressive will help book more meetings.

Julie’s major takeaway? Don’t expect this to be something you’ll figure out independently.

While you can minimize the importance of these skills, recognize others are perfecting this craft to deliver great virtual communication. And they’ll make their customers feel seen and heard.  To contact Julie, follow her on Twitter @acting4sales, LinkedIn (@juliehansensalestraining), or YouTube

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

This episode is brought to you in part by mParticle.

Are you tired of wading through thousands of open sales positions to find the one perfect for you? Well, look no further. mParticle is one of the leading independent customer data platforms out there, and they’re looking for motivated remote sellers (just like yourself.) 

With top-name clients from Spotify and Burger King to Airbnb, we don’t want you to let this opportunity go to waste! For more information and to view open positions, go to https://www.mparticle.com/careers/.

Direct download: TSE_1515.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

We could spend hours discussing the importance of honing your craft. But, whether it’s perfecting your golf swing, mixing the perfect cocktail, and of course, making sales, practice is what leads to a better result. Today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist features NYT bestselling author Seth Godin. He and Donald discuss elements of his most recent book “The Practice” and how salespeople can use these principles to connect with prospects

There is a disconnect between what selling used to be and what selling is now.

  • A salesperson is no longer responsible for informing prospects or conducting a sale- the internet does that.
  • A salesperson is responsible, however, for the transference of emotion. And that is the skill most salespeople need to cultivate. 

How can the idea of trusting yourself from “The Practice” help an individual sales rep?

  • Most people are their own worst boss. They’re never satisfied with their work and undermine their future potential.
  • The challenge that comes with trusting yourself is acknowledging two voices in your head - the scared one that needs reassurance and the generous, connected voice. Silence the first voice a little bit and listen to the other one.  
  • In a B2B setting, we don’t need a replaceable salesperson lined up to argue about some RPF; we need people with creativity and confidence. Remember, the client isn’t just buying the product; they’re buying the story.

Instead of saying “I need to be the expert,” say “ I know all the questions.” 

  • Young BDRs don’t position themselves to be seen as the expert. View yourself as a consultant to be more confident in conducting meaningful conversations.
  • If you know the ten questions that change everything for a client, that’s useful. 
  • You aren’t pushing people to buy your answer, but it’s about being present for someone to find their own.
  • Look at Fred Wilson’s blog (one of the most successful venture capitalists of all time.)

Be like Jackson Pollock. 

  • Both Jackson and his brother Charles took painting classes from Thomas Hart Benton.
  • Charles’s work looked like Benton’s, and he went unknown. On the other hand, Jackson’s work was creative. However, everyone hated it.
  • But when the right collectors saw his work, Jackson found success. The moral of the story: Don’t look for gimmicks or stunts. Just be unique.
  • The desire to be liked and fit in drives many salespeople to the role. But great salespeople are willing to bring friction to the table to get people out of their rut.

Be a Purple Cow and look for ways to stand out. 

  • Being a purple cow isn’t talking about yourself. What it means to be remarkable is that people make remarks about you. 
  • They're not going to talk about you because you need to make a sale. They're going to talk about you because you're generous, see status roles, understand affiliation, have insight, and make their life better. 

Seth’s takeaway for people new to the sales industry? You don’t need to learn all the tactics yet. First, decide if you want to be a professional, look to the future, and fail along the way. For more content from Seth, check out his blog for daily articles, and purchase his new book The Practice or his previous book Purple Cow (among others), available on Amazon.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1514.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Selling can be a complicated process, especially when prospects have multiple objections to your solution. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by David Smith to discuss how he uses prospect-centered selling to overcome these objections and help prospects make authentic and genuine decisions. David encountered this issue when developing senior housing communities in St. Louis.

His job was easy: to fill the communities.

  • But David’s problem wasn’t generating leads; it was converting them to make a final decision. 
  • It’s a difficult decision to leave your home and move into a retirement community. It’s a decision many people don’t want to make, even though it is logically the right choice. 
  • Motivational speaker Brian Tracy says there are four prerequisites to a sale:
    • Having a product or service
    • Being able to afford it
    • Being able to use it
    • Having a desire for it - this was the critical missing from David’s prospects.

The solution? David had to draw motivation out of them.

  • It’s a complex, heuristic sale based on emotional resistance. And until someone recognizes and overcomes that emotional resistance, there’s no solution.
  • David recognized that moving out of your home comes with a loss of identity. He needed to look at this transaction not from an investor perspective but the perspective of each individual prospect.
  • When David sells, he looks for themes and values of the individual to build a foundation. And this approach applies to any product or service.

Upon finishing this project, David could go back to law or help others fill their communities. He chose the latter.

  • He built a methodology (with the help of his partner, Alexandra Fisher) based on the psychology of change.
  • He also build the CRM Sherpa, which launched in June of 2014 and is now used by 1500 communities around the globe.
  • With his CRM, David extrapolated helpful information that further guided his methodology:
    • If you spend more time in direct selling activity, you’ll have better results.
    • How you use that time in the selling zone matters. 
    • The more time per lead worked, the better results will be.
    • Effectively use the time spent planning subsequent engagements
    • Creatively and purposely connect and follow up with prospects.

It’s not in the hearing; it’s in the telling. 

  • Hearing keeps interest and motivation along the way. 
  • But the most crucial part is for the prospect to articulate their thoughts and feelings. And you do that by asking clarifying questions and showing a genuine interest.
  • His goal is to help his prospects make an authentic, autonomous decision that reflects their own values.

His major advice? It’s not one size fits all when it comes to selling. Everyone responds differently. Be yourself, be heroic, and be authentic. For more content from David, check out his book “It’s About Time,” available on Amazon. Visit his website, oneonone.com, and check out his CRM at sherpacrm.com.

 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

 

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

 

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1513.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Studies show it takes 8-12 touchpoints to convert a prospect to a client, yet many salespeople give up after the first one or two. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald interviews Fractional CMO and digital marketing expert Daphne Thomson to learn her strategy for effective sales follow-ups and why you should revitalize your process.

First things first, the follow-up is more than just a phone call.

  • A follow-up is a value you provide in that touchpoint, and it should be roughly 80% value and 20% sales.
  • Because 60% of conversions occur only after the 12th touchpoint, you must have a system in place to ensure prospects regularly receive valuable messaging.

See the prospect as a person, not just a lead.

  • The connection becomes much more powerful once you relate to them on a human level.
  • Salespeople bring in the business, so you’re indirectly responsible for a large part of your team. Hopefully, that drives and motivates you to continue to follow up.
  • To continue to add value to prospects throughout their touchpoints, make sure you place them in the funnel specific to the value they want.
  • The majority of follow-up platforms are similar. She uses Zoho, ActiveCampaign, and MailChimp as follow-up systems, but there are many. So it really depends on your needs.

What should an organization do to establish a better follow-up system?

  • Educate yourself. If you can learn these systems, you are educated and have power. 
  • For salespeople, perform a survey to ask people for reviews on platforms or your value messaging.
  • When a salesperson comes to sell their product or service, ask them what platforms they use. Particularly for follow-up platforms, see if they even use their own.
  • Remember, it’s not going to happen overnight. This is a process that requires consistency to make effective.
  • If you’re worried about reaching out to people too many times, realize those people were likely not going to buy from you in the first place, especially if that’s the typical style for your company.

Final takeaway? Keep consistent. Remember that 60% of sales aren’t made until the 12th touchpoint, so keep at it. Visit www.catchthebeat.ca for a full webinar on the specific funnels you should create for optimal success. For more great content and information from Daphne, connect with her on LinkedIn, or find her on Facebook and Instagram (@daphnethomson2901.) She also hosts weekly small business shows on Clubhouse (@daffer.)

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1512.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

When we dive into the nitty-gritty of sales, there’s a critical difference between sales engagement and sales enablement. While both are important, especially when developing relationships with prospects, the differences can be challenging to determine. That’s why, on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald discusses what sales engagement is and how you can implement it in your own sales practice.

So, what is sales engagement?

  • Simply put, sales engagement is an interaction between you and the prospect. (But there’s obviously more to it than that.)
  • Sales enablement is giving salespeople the tools to know what to say and do it effectively.

Effectively implementing sales engagement:

  • Many tools offer both sales enablement and sales engagement. And back in the day, salespeople would dial-up contacts in a phone book. But that isn’t effective today. 
  • Instead of phone book contacts, we rely on intent-based marketing and information to gather potential leads.

How can you know if an HR director is looking for contacts?

  • Platforms like ZoomInfo and 6sense allow the sales rep to find companies based on keywords relevant to your product or service. 
  • Tools like Outreach and Salesloft help you understand when emails are opened and their interaction with content.
  • It’s like Whack-a-Mole - frustrating when you hit empty space. But, if you knew where the moles would pop up, you could predict where they’d be. And you’d whack with confidence!*

*TSE does not endorse whacking prospects. 

Fine-tuning the sales engagement workflow:

  • Know when to reach out to a prospect and what type of outreach is most effective for that prospect. 
  • Use analytics to drive content decisions.
  • Utilize tools like video and other content (based on what your prospects are most likely to use.)

Today’s final takeaway? In the B2C world, major companies are experts at sales engagement. (Amazon probably knows more about you than you do yourself.) B2B organizations are working towards that goal to understand the situation, problem of the prospect, and series will help you do the same.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1511.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Account-based selling isn’t like your typical sales procedure. While both take skill and finesse, Account-based selling requires mastery over both your company and your clients. For the past year and a half, Thomas has worked for Amazon Web Services, making nine-figure deals. And on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, he and Donald discuss what you need to know about selling to enterprise organizations. (Fun fact: On today’s undisclosed episode of recording, it’s our guest Thomas Niewiara’s birthday!)

Amazon is (to say the least) not a small organization, and they do both account-based and traditional sales approaches.

  • Working with Amazon Web Services’ global accounts team, Thomas manages large AWS customers.
  • Before, he did many sales and sales engineering roles from Google Cloud to a cybersecurity startup.
  • The difference between traditional and account-based selling: the conventional model is a top-down funnel centered around creating and nurturing brand awareness. In account-based sales, you start by identifying critical strategic accounts to focus on and then building lead generation around them.

How to start account-based selling:

  • Develop executive-level relationships because prospecting with a bottom-up approach might not work when 1000s of people work within one company segment. 
  • Because most of these larger accounts are public, analyze available financial statements (such as 10k’s) to frame your specific solutions. 

Thomas spends much more time than average on research.

  • He spends 40% of his time researching for his accounts, with the remaining 60% going towards pitching, presenting, and other facets of his work.
  • Why does he spend so much time researching? You need to understand the problem before you prescribe the solution.
  • As an account rep with these clients, you are the expert. You’re expected to know all the key players within that account and how they work with each other.
  • He has google alerts for both of his accounts, and he uses LinkedIn Sales Navigator for company alerts.
  • He moves nine-figure deals. With that amount of money, you need to bring knowledge and professionalism to the table.

Thomas’ final takeaways and sales advice:

  • It’s essential to develop a relationship with the customer, but for account-based selling, it becomes even more important to network internally. 
  • Know all the tools available to you to do your job as best you can.
  • For listeners working in bigger companies, check if coworkers have past connections and ins into the company. You’d be surprised how much overlap there is.

Quick Tik Tok Talk: Follow Tom on Tik Tok at techsalestom (and follow our own Donald Kelly at donaldckelly.) It turns out the app is far more than just dancing! Follow Tom for conversations about tech sales and how it goes beyond the standard software sale. If Tik Tok isn’t your thing, you can connect with him on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1510.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

ABM (or account-based marketing) is the latest buzzword in the sales world, but how can we integrate this strategy within an existing marketing strategy? More importantly, should you? On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by the Director of Global Account-Based Marketing at ON24, Lisset Sanchez-Schwartz, to learn her approach to implementing account-based marketing campaigns successfully.

  1. Determine what ABM really means and which type you should utilize. 
  • ABM is a cross of a full range of communications, from events to content delivery.
  • It’s segmenting customer bases into unique groups where you can apply different and specific messages. In some cases, that could even mean a 1:1 strategy.
  • It’s not a tactic or campaign type, but it's an orchestration amongst many team members to holistically approach an account.
  • There are three ABM approaches: one-to-one, one-to-few, and one-to-many. Of course, the personalized you get, the more expensive it is to implement. 
  1. Determine if an ABM strategy will be effective.
  • Admittedly, this should probably be a discussion before you determine the type of ABM. But remember, not every account needs an ABM strategy attached.
  • ABM needs to be a partnership with sales. (Many places even call it ABX, because it applies to so much more than just marketing.)
  • Lisset’s pro tip: Don’t try to boil the ocean. It takes money, time, and effort over a long period to see results. 
  1. Develop the infrastructure to support your ABM approach
  • If you don’t have the infrastructure to do retargeting at scale, select a handful of accounts and research.
  • Apply an ABM strategy where it makes sense. 
  • To determine if an account might benefit from an ABM strategy, evaluate and research. If you have a limited budget, use information from your sales team to build the most robust plan possible.
  • If you have a larger budget, utilize third-party data to gain more information about a potential company. This is a great way to learn if a company is interested in you (or a competitor.)
  • The more time you spend on the model, the better the backend will be

How do you aggregate this information if you don’t have the software to find all these data points?

  • Hopefully, you have a CRM. The first-party data you’ve built up will pay dividends.
  • Start with what you have today. Even if your data isn’t the cleanest, start a 1:1 with a company you’re more confident about.

Lisset’s final takeaway? Have the conversation and have patience. A long-term strategy might not seem successful initially, but it will pay dividends down the line with consistency. Visit ON24.com for more company information and connect with Lisset on LinkedIn to learn more.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1509.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

How can you interact with potential buyers (especially enterprise clients) that encourage a dialogue? After all, landing the sale isn’t the only part of the equation; you first have to get their attention! In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Dr. Stephen Timme and Melody Astley to discuss their recent book Insight-Led Selling, which details how to learn how buyers think.

But first, why did they write a book?

  • Ultimately, Stephen and Melody wanted to create a resource their clients and community could utilize.
  • It’s harder than ever to sell to enterprise sellers (yes, people say that every year. But it’s true!) And COVID-aside, the subscription-based economy is growing.
  • There are more stakeholders than ever before in traditional buying processes. At the same time, implementation costs for platforms are lower, making it easier to switch between service providers.

They interviewed many executives to see how they felt about sales. 

  • From AT&T, Coca-Cola, Proctor and Gamble, and even Honey-Baked Hams, Stephen and Melody interviewed executives to learn firsthand how they felt about salespeople. (If you were curious, Honey-Baked Hams didn’t even give them coupons. We’re just as disappointed as you are.)
  • They asked one simple question: what could sellers do better? Below were the three overwhelming responses:
  • First, tell me something I don’t know.
  • Second, how does what you’re selling align with my goals and strategies.
  • Third, make my life easy (and don’t give me a 30-page proposal.)

Personalization is more than inserting the name of each person in an email blast. 

  • It’s developing a point of view that is interesting to the person you’re talking to.
  • Hold on, let’s say that again for those who missed it: spend a moment to develop a point of view interesting to the person you’re talking to.
  • As a sales leader, we expect output from our BDRs. But we can’t do this and expect results from a spray-and-pray method. The game has changed.

How can you implement these sales techniques?

  • For publicly-traded companies, you have access to specific financial figures; use that to align your selling proposition with their capabilities. 
  • Explain the “how” you can help them before you can get into the “how much.” 
  • For sales leaders, equip your salespeople with the specialized knowledge they might need. 
  • You can self-learn if you feel unsupported by your organization, or (and an even better strategy), ask your organization for support.

Their final takeaway? Understanding the language of how a customer speaks (and relating that to financial objectives) is a skill that will last the rest of your career.  Insight-Led Selling is available for purchase on Amazon or Barnes & Noble. To contact Melody and Stephen, reach out at info@finlistics.com or connect on their business’s LinkedIn page. (Or connect directly with Stephen and Melody.)

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1508.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Gatekeepers: the infamous villains of the sales world. Regardless of industry, most high-level executives employ some type of executive assistant or secretary to serve as a gatekeeper. A necessary part of the professional world, these assistants act as a filter that forces salespeople to maintain high standards and thoughtful targeting to pass. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald interviews Natasha Bowles, founder of Natasha Bowles Professional Staffing Agency, to learn more about how salespeople should interact with gatekeepers for more successful results. 

The main priority of an executive assistant: securing the executive’s time. 

  • If Natasha didn’t protect her executive’s time, salespeople (among others) would occupy all their time.
  • That doesn’t mean salespeople are bad. But it does mean she ensures the salespeople she lets pass are prepared and offer a product or service genuinely beneficial to her executive’s company.
  • Executives receive 250-1000 emails every day. She is a necessary filter that helps executives find time to do their jobs. 
  • Therefore, as salespeople, you must convince both the executive and the gatekeeper that you’re worthy of their time.

Get past the virtual inbox - Natasha’s tips for email outreach:

  • Natasha automatically discards anything that looks like an email blast- emails containing no information about the company and just discuss the sender’s product.
  • To get to the executive, show initiative, research the target company and show how you can help solve a problem.
  • It’s not just personalizing the email; it’s demonstrating understanding of the target and what you can offer them.

It’s basic human decency, but still applicable: be respectful.

  • Gatekeepers will notes a dismissive or demanding salesperson. And, if they need that product or service, the gatekeeper will look elsewhere.
  • In 2018, Natasha was tasked with finding an alarm system, water cooler, and other aspects for a new building.
  • The man she was looking to buy from refused to talk to her, insisting on interacting with her executive at every stage of the buying journey.
  • Natasha ultimately ended the partnership with his company because he refused to work with her, and she found a different supplier.
  • Salespeople have a long-standing perception that they need to speak with the decision-maker. But the decision-maker doesn’t necessarily mean the top-level executive. It’s whoever is in charge of the decision (I know, it’s shocking.)

Develop (and maintain) a relationship with the gatekeeper to be effective.

  • Find a balance between demonstrating product knowledge without going over people’s heads.
  • Don’t explain hyper-specific nuances, but emphasize what sets your product apart from the competition.
  • Maintaining a relationship is just as important as the initial sale. Remember, executives meet with 5-15 people each day. And executive assistants interact with dozens more.
  • If you don’t interact with the gatekeeper until it’s time to upsell a year later, that gatekeeper will not remember you. 
  • Maintain the relationship, stay in touch, and develop a personal connection to ensure the gatekeeper reaches out when the time comes.

Connect with her on LinkedIn (at natashabeingww) to learn more about her experiences. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1507.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Like with any job, your sales performance will be far better with the proper mindset. A focused attitude, combined with a strong feeling of self-worth and knowing who you are as a human being, affects all areas of your life. On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Robert Workman to learn how to empower ourselves to have a mindset conducive to sales success.

You need to have confidence in both your work and yourself.  

  • Have confidence that you’ll show up as yourself, regardless of what meeting, event, or circumstance you find yourself in. 
  • Many salespeople lack a strong sense of confidence but finding that confidence empowers you to do whatever you need to do to succeed.

How you can be more focused as a sales professional: 

  • Once you’re confident in yourself, you can accomplish what you know is suitable for your career rather than what other people might tell you is correct.
  • Robert’s book Selling - The Most Dangerous Game encourages you to look at the leadership and style of work in your workplace to determine if it is the right environment for you.
  • Have the confidence to acknowledge if this workplace will be conducive to your success rather than forcing something that doesn’t work.

To ensure success, take ownership of your time.

  • Eliminating distractions is paramount to the success of a salesperson. 
  • When dealing with adversity, you have to have a total belief in yourself.
  • You have to believe you can walk into a business meeting and accomplish what you need to do.

To get in touch with Robert, visit his website, hiredgun.us, for his email, contact information, and links to his books.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1506.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Whether or not you and your business utilize account-based selling, you won’t obtain the sales figures you want without the right messaging and communication. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by sales consultant and strategic advisor Scott Leese to learn how salespeople can ensure they’re using messaging that delivers results.

How can a salesperson ensure solid messaging?

  • Have the client explain and describe what problems and challenges they have.
  • During the first interaction with a potential client, some businesses will try to talk about themselves. Don’t do that.
  • Selling is more than convincing the prospect to buy your product. The first step is simply to pique their interest.

The traditional mass-email strategy is no longer effective.

  • People are inundated with vague email pitches. 
  • While this was once a good strategy, the pendulum has now swung in the opposite direction, and the number of importance is no longer volume; it’s conversions.
  • We have to be thoughtful, customer-focused, and targeted.

How to create thoughtful messaging:

  • Find out more about your target. Research the individual and the company, find one or two key points and then reach out.
  • Most importantly: Understand you won’t hit a home run every time. Don’t spend hours researching one prospect. Instead, find something to have a simple but thoughtful conversation.
  • If you put yourself out there in a casual, thoughtful, authentic way, that puts people at ease. And that ease allows them to pass that onto somebody else.

Scott’s main takeaway is: Be sincere, be human, and be thoughtful. Don’t overthink or try to get an A+; college is over. To get in touch with Scott, connect with him on LinkedIn, and check him out on Thursday Night Sales, the longest-running virtual sales happy hour. You can also tune in to his podcast, The Surf & Sales Podcast.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1505.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Every salesperson has been in this situation at some point: marketing delivers a handful of leads, only for nobody to respond after you initiate contact. While frustrating, that’s an unfortunate downfall of the lead-based selling model, and a great reason why pivoting to an account-based sales model could be beneficial for you. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald explains what account-based selling is and how you can implement it into your approach. 

Account-based selling is an excellent approach for many businesses.

  • Rather than utilize a traditional lead-based model, an account-based approach focuses on the ideal client account of your company and how you can attract similar clients to them.
  • An account-based strategy will keep your marketing and sales departments unified and focused on the same target, generating more touchpoints and communications with the ideal client most likely to purchase.

How to start using an account-based approach:

  • First, make a list of the people most likely to buy from you. This list should be a series of criteria that only a select group will fit.
  • Second, discover companies that fit these descriptions.
  • Finally, multithread. Don’t reach out to just one person at the company; find three to five people you might want to interact with.

What is the benefit of account-based selling?

  • Marketing and sales will continue their typical outreach: the white papers, the events, and the webinars. 
  • Only now, it’ll come with a focus and a mission that is aligned with the ideal account most beneficial to the salespeople.
  • Account-based targeting allows you to create content specifically for your ideal client. While the reach might be smaller, the likelihood of moving those ideal clients through the funnel is much more significant.

It takes time and work to develop the playbook to make this process run seamlessly. But once the plan is in place, you’ll find opportunities for more growth and more sales.

Join our Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to share your sales story and join a community of people dedicated to growing their profession.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1504.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Embracing the technological capabilities of the modern-day isn’t just a good idea; it’s a necessity. On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Peter Kazanjy, the founder of Atrium and Modern Sales Pros (the nation’s largest sales, operations and leadership peer-education community.) As an author on early-stage sales excellent (Founding Sales), Peter is a sales expert who knows why you need to become a data-driven sales seller.

What does it mean to be a data-driven seller?

  • It’s very similar to the innovation we’ve seen in athletics and high-end professions: someone utilizes every available advantage. 
  • Especially with people working from home, there’s an opportunity to use new information to improve rep and team performance.
  • If you don’t utilize these new technological innovations to make data-informed decisions, you’re going to be in a bad spot.

How do you sell embracing technology to managers?

  • There are two historical reasons sales managers are typically blocked from a data-driven perspective: their ability and enablement, or the available tooling.
  • Simple deal inspection is a standard management style, but it’s no longer the most effective. Enabling managers to manage metrics and goals is necessary to close the number of deals needed to stay viable. 
  • Transitioning to a data-driven framework, especially as a manager, only benefits the team and brings in more money, making it a practical adjustment when given the proper resources.

How can I go about starting if I don’t have management support?

  • Start paying attention to the important precursors.
  • There's a conversion rate for the total number of accounts you interact with and the number of opportunities you create. Similarly, there will be a correlation between outreach efforts and movement through a conversion funnel.
  • It’s like doing your daily pushups - consistency is key. Even if you don’t have the support of those around you, tracking simple metrics yourself will significantly help your own sales goals.

What metrics should we tackle first?

  • The further upstream you can get, the better.
  • Ensure you are meeting not just the quantity threshold you need, but one of quantity.
  • Don’t email a few people; spread your portfolio. Who are you engaging with?
  • Are you doing a good job, indicated by the response rate and opportunities created?

Peter’s major takeaway: Understand the importance of data-driven sales management. Whether that’s investing in highly specialized software or just keeping track on a whiteboard in your living room, using data to make decisions will provide critical opportunities for growth in your organization.

To get in touch with Peter, connect with him on LinkedIn. His company Atrium is offering special deals on various resources (and even coffee mugs) for listeners of The Sales Evangelist, which you can access at atriumhq.com/tse.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1503.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

To own or not to own, that is the question. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Mike Farrell, who specializes in outsourcing SDR work so their clients can focus on other tasks. Should you and your company use an external SDR team, or should you invest in and develop a team yourself? Find out in today’s episode.

With 18 years in the SDR world, Mike knows when to outsource versus invest in a team yourself.

  • The answer? It all depends on where your company is in its maturation process.
  • Startups and recently created companies likely don’t have the tools, people, or finances in place to develop their own team successfully (and should therefore outsource.)
  • On the other hand, after receiving two or three rounds of investment, it might be wise to create your own team with a more in-depth understanding of what your company offers.

What even is “outsourcing”?

  • Mike’s company has two different outsourcing methods: they use their own software, systems and people to perform the tasks themselves. This means the SDR team can be rapidly deployed, but a third-party organization still owns it. This is a common model for startups.
  • The other model is a pay-per-appointment method, reserved more for companies that have enterprise companies as clients.

How to determine if you should outsource your team’s SDR work:

  • Work backward: First, decide on your final sales goals and objectives. 
  • Look at how many deals you made in a time frame and the win rate of the prospects you contacted.
  • Total the number of prospects you interacted with across all mediums, and determine if you have the number of staff required to reach your goals based on your win rate.
  • If the answer is no, you need to hire an external vendor to augment that (or staff up your internal SDR organization.)

To get in contact with Mike, visit his company website at Greenleads.com or email him at mike.farrell@greenleads.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1502.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Branding is way more than the marketing or the marketing team - it’s establishing and helping people realize you’re an authority. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by branding expert Marc Gutman to learn why businesses that invest in branding win out over those that don’t.

Marc’s branding journey started because of the power of storytelling:

  • Marc worked in the movie business, working with award-winning director Oliver Stone. It was in this field where he learned what the power of storytelling could do for an organization.
  • He moved to branding after moving to Colorado, where he discovered a fantastic community of startup entrepreneurs. Marc started his own business (which he ended up selling) and then started his branding agency, Wild Story.

A brand has one job: Get people to buy more stuff for more years at a higher price. 

  • There are two ways for an organization to increase its margins: lower costs or increase the price of goods or services. 
  • To raise the price without reducing transactions, you must increase the product’s perceived value so people are more willing to pay more.

Everyone has a brand, even as an individual:

  • Whether you like it or not, people want to know about you if they’re going to work with you. And because people no longer work in the same career or organization their entire life,  you always need to be building a brand reputation for your future.
  • There’s only room for one person to be the cheapest in the market. For everyone else, there is branding to emphasize what you bring to the table.

What can an organization do to develop a brand?

  • Become a thought leader and make content. Whether that’s video, podcasts, or blogs, pick a medium that you like and start creating!
  • A brand is not your logo, tagline, or website. It’s the words and underlying DNA behind your organization.
  • People have a gut feeling about your products and service, and you influence that through your words.
  • A brand should become repetitive to you internally, but it should never feel repetitive externally. 

Check him out on Instagram, LinkedIn, and visit his website at wildstory.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1501.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s time to celebrate The Sales Evangelist’s 1500th episode! To celebrate this milestone, today’s episode is a little different. Rather than bringing in a guest, Donald looks back at past episodes to discuss five sales principles that have been important to him as a salesman, businessman, and just throughout his life.

  1. Just getting started
  • Listening to the first TSE episode is...rough. But there’s an important takeaway: don’t judge your “episode one” to someone else’s episode 1500. 
  • As a new seller, don’t compare yourself to a veteran seller with years of experience.
  • Nobody is great at something initially. So, just start, and don’t compare yourself to the quality of others.
  1. The principles of selling are the same.
  • This podcast has interviewed all types of people, from authors and sellers to industry experts. 
  • According to Jeb in a previous episode, the selling process has not evolved because salespeople still go through similar processes, connect with people, and solve problems.
  • What has changed are the tools and information available and the buyers’ expectations.
  1. Winning the morning
  • Episode seven of the podcast was about something critical: time management. 
  • According to the guest from that episode, Justin Su’a, winning the morning means starting strong.
  • The problem isn’t that there aren’t enough hours in the day; the problem is that we don’t take advantage of the time available.
  • Winning the day doesn’t mean you have to wake up at three or four in the morning (necessarily); just put the most pressing tasks and high-priority items first.
  1. Learning to be agile
  • According to the one and only Jill Conrad, salespeople need to find a way to stay agile.
  • Agile selling is getting up to speed on sales practices as soon as possible. 
  • Learning these new practices makes salespeople more relevant and helpful to their prospects.
  • To become a more agile seller, set aside a portion of your day to read, study, and understand new sales techniques and practices.
  1. Your net worth will directly tie into your network.
  • People connect LinkedIn connections like Pokemon. (Which we can guarantee you isn’t the best practice.)
  • Don’t just add people and never respond. Instead, make genuine connections with people! Create a stronger relationship that will provide help and support later down the line.
  • A great intro to reach out to someone on LinkedIn? Share your favorite episode of The Sales Evangelist or Donald’s article in Success Magazine! (It might be a shameless plug on our end, but can you blame us?)

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1500.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

A common problem for salespeople is interacting solely with just one stakeholder. But in reality, involving multiple people is the perfect strategy to help deals go through (and make more people excited about them.) In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Amy Hrehovcik to discuss her strategy to apply multi-threading throughout your sales process.

Amy’s sales experience is extensive.

  • After selling for nearly a decade, Amy finished at Thomson Reuters before transitioning to marketing consulting (eventually working in a startup as the Chief of Customer Value.)
  • She later pivoted to sales enablement, realizing she had a passion for teaching sellers and empowering sales leaders.
  • Amy now hosts the podcast Revenue Real Hotline, where she discusses uncomfortable conversations in sales.
  • Why did she start the podcast? She wrote an article (Mental Health, The Greatest Competitive Advantage That You’ll Ever Know), and it was viewed by the great Andy Paul.
  • He invited her onto his show, and participating in that made her realize the importance of podcasting in sales. (Check out Donald’s guest appearance on her show.)

Today’s topic: Multi-threading

  • Multi-threading describes liaising with multiple stakeholders and executive sponsors throughout an organization. 
  • The average number of buyers involved in the buying motion was 6.7. Since that time, it has increased.
  • Because her main selling vertical was big law, Amy realized the importance of proactively engaging with multiple stakeholders early on to minimize the objections buyers would have when moving the deal forward.

Why should you consider this selling approach?

  • Not to sound cliche (but we will anyway), it’s the same reason you don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
  • Amy began to hold off on doing deep-dive demos until at least three executive sponsors were in the room because it diversified the risk for the individuals involved. 
  • They were no longer the sole advocate for a product (assuming they like it), thus limiting the amount of blame and buyer’s remorse people might feel after implementation.
  • Because the buying process is getting longer, executives will invariably drop out of the acquisition process. But when you have two or three other executives who want to see the deal move forward, it is much more likely to move through.

How can you begin to develop this approach?

  • Communicate with the original executive sponsor that you want to help them make the right decision, and you can do that by demonstrating the business case on your behalf. 
  • Ask permission to have conversations with others or other departments to learn how others reach a particular goal.
  • The Heath Brothers wrote in one of their books (Made to Stick) the idea of bright spots.
  • Because of the relationships she developed throughout this discovery phase, she could return to her original executive sponsor and deliver a detailed report that helped both of their causes.

One major takeaway from multithreading? Just do it. It’s like anything else- you might not be good at it at first. But with practice, you’ll begin to see success. To contact Amy, connect with her on LinkedIn to learn more about her process with multithreading.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1499.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

From small entrepreneurial startups to major corporations, customer loyalty and customer service are vital for business. After all, without customers, would you be able to stay in business? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Brad Cleveland, author, speaker, and something, to learn Brad’s five steps leaders should take to build customer loyalty.

Establish a vision.

  • Think REI: we inspire, educate, and outfit for a lifetime of outdoor adventure and stewardship. It’s clear, concise, and anyone hearing it will know exactly what the company is about.
  • Visions aren’t exclusive to companies; they should be for individuals too. So why do you do what you do? 

Tap into innovation.

  • As you interact with your contacts, prospects, and customers, think about what you can learn from the exchange.
  • The more you pay attention to the root causes driving interactions with your customers, the better you’ll be able to serve them.

Cast a wide net of listening.

  • Brainstorm every possible way a customer might try to interact with you. Between email, social media, physical, website forms, there’s a myriad of potential sources you have to be prepared to listen to.
  • The quietest voices can be the most powerful, but you’ve got to be willing to hear them.

Build your approach around ten customer expectations.

  • Customer expectations aren’t changing; be responsive, be available, simple things that just make common sense.
  • Find ways to provide the service your customer wants.

Build processes around recurring problem areas.

  • Even after implementing the four previous steps, you might still encounter recurring frustrations, and that’s normal. 
  • If this happens, identify those problem areas and work to solve those issues. Then, develop processes that avoid or fix the areas moving forward.

Brad’s major takeaway? Be uniquely you. There might be things you can learn from other people or organizations, but trying to emulate them will prevent you from developing the authentic relationships you want. Visit him at bradcleveland.com to view his courses, get in contact with him, and find out more about his journey. Read his book Leading the Customer Experience and visit the International Customer Management Institute to find a community of professionals dedicated to providing the perfect customer experience.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1496.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

With every other major field in the business world, professionals undergo years of training and education to learn the standard practices, techniques, and skills to make them successful. But with sales, it’s the exact opposite. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Paul Fifield, CEO, and co-founder of Sales Impact Academy, to learn why the education system has overlooked sales (and what we can do to fix it.)

It’s okay to feel like you don’t know what you’re doing.

  • Imposter syndrome is common in sales professionals because nobody is told what they should be doing.

  • There is no structured learning or education in sales, which Paul deems “the greatest educational tragedy.”

What if we applied a similar educational journey to finance?

  • To reinforce the point, think about another important B2B profession: finance.

  • What if the way you got into finance was to go get a degree in math and then just walk up and start working?

  • It’s absurd, yet that’s exactly what happens in sales. 

The core role of higher education is to equip people with the skills to contribute meaningfully to the economy.

  • The pace of change for sales is too quick for it to be integrated easily into traditional education because traditional universities just can’t keep up with these shifts.

  • The result? Everybody feels like an imposter, and nobody follows the best practices. And the wheel is being reinvented each and every day.

Some quick facts:

  • A search on LinkedIn reveals 60 million people are in sales. 

  • There’s not even one book on revenue operations, yet over three million people hold revenue operations titles on LinkedIn.

  • The GDP of B2B companies is roughly 43 trillion dollars, and that staggering amount of money is resting on the sales staffed by people who’ve never been educated on their positions.

How can we make an impact and these changes to teach sales principles?

  • Educate yourself. Learn the sales standards and educate around those standards. 

  • That’s the platform Paul’s company solves by teaching these standards and best practices.

Paul’s major takeaway? Get a subscription for the sales academy (yes, it’s a shameless plug. But it really will help!) To connect with Paul, connect with him on LinkedIn or reach out to him at paul@thesalesimpact.io or +44 075-988-3543. Visit The Sales Impact Academy to find courses and learnings that will help you in your sales career.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1495.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Because of the hustle and bustle salespeople experience each day, it can be challenging to be our most focused and productive selves. So what steps can we take to be more productive throughout the day? Today, Donald is joined by Janice B. Gordon to learn her tips for staying focused and energized throughout the day.

Always listen to your body:

  • Janice does yoga and meditation, which she’s been doing for nearly forty years.
  • .If you enjoy what you do, that makes all the difference.
  • She chooses to focus on energy management because many people, especially after the pandemic, feel low energy and motivation.
  • People think pulling a 10, 12 or 15 hour day is productive. But you are far less effective pulling these days than focusing your time and energy for shorter lengths of time.

Symptoms arise if you don’t address your personal energy needs.

  • You just feel negative. And instead of having a bad moment, you turn that moment into a bad day. 
  • When you feel you’re having a bad day, you are less productive and less likely to make the most of the time you have available.

The four dimensions of energy:

  • Physical energy - All the nutrients going into your body. Exercise and recovery time can bring up your physical energy.
  • Emotional energy is the interconnectedness between people and is the energy that suffered because of the pandemic. There is less interaction with others, be it in the office, at a restaurant, or even around the neighborhood.
  • Mental energy is associated with thinking and problem-solving. As sales professionals, we use this form of energy all the time. For this energy type, practicing drastically helps cultivate this energy. However, ensure you take mental breaks.
  • Spiritual energy - This is your purpose and mission. Spiritual energy influences your character, your personality, and your choices. This is the overarching concept that connects your different energies.

If your spiritual energy is low, your motivation will suffer.

  • To solve this, take a mindful walk. Notice and observe what’s around you and empty your brain. Then, when you go back to the office, you’ll be incredibly focused and productive.
  • Listen to your body and give it what it needs. 
  • Always have water at your desk, and drink it constantly.

To get more content from Janice, check out her podcast, the Scale Your Sales Podcast (and check out episode 95 to listen to Donald’s guest appearance!) You can also connect with Janice on LinkedIn.

Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with on your sales journey.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1494.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Where is the future of selling? The future of selling is here. For anyone thinking of joining the professional sales world, or who knows someone who wants to join sales, or knows someone who knows someone (I’m sure you get the idea), this is the series for you. In today’s episode, Donald gives three things every seller needs to know about the future of selling.

  1. Your plays are outdated.
  • When you think of sports like football, you think of the playbook that dictates the different actions the team might take. Unfortunately, sales has become way too similar to that.
  • Many organizations try to streamline the sales process and provide plays for salespeople to follow. While great in theory, it doesn’t work when every salesperson runs the same plays.
  • To make it worse? Not only are salespeople doing it, but the prospects are as well!
  • Bring something unique to the table by using a revenue-centric approach. How does the company you want to work with making money?
  1. Go rogue.
  • Business development representatives need to think differently because prospects want you to come to the table with business problems.
  • Don’t just try to offer sales or marketing help when interacting with a prospect. Instead, ask the right questions, find their specific problem, and address those issues.
  1. Sales and marketing need to come together. 
  • An article from Forbes states that sales and marketing can “no longer work in tandem.”
  • Being aligned is no longer sufficient; the departments need to be integrated.
  • Place the customer journey first, and develop a curated buying experience for the consumer instead of building different components for the same building.

What or where do you think the future of sales is going to be? Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with on your sales journey and share your thoughts and response.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1493.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Sometimes all it takes to differentiate from the competition successfully is to think past the first solution. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by the co-founder of Leaddelta, Ved Rasic, to learn how he launched a successful company after thinking past the first solution

Understand the main assumptions of a crowded market:

  • If you’re in a crowded market, that means there’s a demand.
  • The leading mistake salespeople make: they scan what others do and try to repeat it.
  • Your goal should be to move past that first option (option A) and create option B.
  • Understand how people arrive at the stage where they need your product.
  • To do this successfully, know the pain points and goals of your customers.

Once you understand the why, how do you differentiate based on those pain points?

  • For the small businesses that utilize full-cycle sale reps, you have several interactions with your customers. It’s cliche, but listen to those interactions.
  • Don’t just listen for phrases you want to hear, but understand their problems and goals to determine how to help them best.
  • Be curious. Let prospects talk more because that often leads to higher closing rates.

Leaddelta can be incredibly helpful in differentiation.

  • The platform is essentially a table or CRM-style view of your first-degree LinkedIn connections. 
  • This setup makes LinkedIn a better platform because it provides a spam-free, ad-free environment to add notes, tags and save time.
  • Leaddelta has over 1400 users, and 50% are paid. And that’s what you can get from thinking about the option B perspective.

The typical salesperson collects LinkedIn connections like Pokemon cards. Instead, use those connections to create powerful relationships.

  • Think about what customers talk about that makes them want a product or service. 
  • Use storytelling to help you become a better sales rep.
  • Follow Ved on LinkedIn and Twitter, and visit his company website at leaddelta.com for more information.

Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with on your sales journey.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1492.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

You can differentiate in more ways than one. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Thomas Capraro to learn what he did to differentiate himself after decades in the industry, especially selling when competition is incredibly similar

Be prepared and be confident enough to ask tough questions.

  • You want the prospect to be able to tell you that you’ve done your homework.
  • Software like ZoomInfo, LinkedIn, and Salesforce help you understand a prospect’s background and learn more about them.

Treat your small clients just like your large clients.

  • You never know who your clients are connected to. For example, one of Thomas’s clients once referred him to a huge IT company headquartered in Boca, leading to a substantial business transaction.
  • Thomas wants his clients to be treated equally, so his company requires every customer to receive a visit every 90 days to ensure their needs are met.
  • A human connection makes all the difference in the sales process. In an increasingly automated field, a personal connection can make all the difference.

People buy from people.

  • Thomas has a certain cadence that he follows, which outlines what type of interaction he should do.
  • At night he does what he likes to call administrivia
  • Thomas completes reports and administrative tasks at the end of the day or on weekends, so he has the time to focus on his craft.
  • As new ways of operating and selling come into play, do your homework. 

Know when to listen (which is most of the time.)

  • Ask open-ended questions and make an effort to genuinely feel like you want to know the value as a person and friend before as a prospect. And that relationship will take time.
  • The days of the one-call closes are gone.
  • As soon as you leave a meeting, take notes and record them on your phone or write them down so the next time you talk to that prospect, you can recap the previous conversation.
  • You can send them news articles or other pertinent information that they might like to show you were paying attention. 

Major takeaway: Do your research and come knowing more than the other person/ Be prepared, both physically and mentally, and be ready to ask the right questions (and listen to the responses.)

You can find Thomas on Facebook to learn more about his thoughts and experiences. Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with on your sales journey.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1491.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

A fundamental aspect of sales is communication (that much is obvious.) But no matter how good at communicating you are, if you’re speaking a different language than the prospect, your chance of landing the sale is slim. As we continue our series stressing the importance of differentiation, Donald is joined by the co-founder of FiveRings Marketing, Shaheem Alam, to learn how to speak like the prospect to make a lasting (and positive) impression. 

What does that mean to speak your customer language?

  • It’s basic psychology: people buy from people they like, and people like people similar to themselves.
  • There are tons of resources on mirroring body language, tonality, and matching behavior. But one of those key points is just speaking their language.
  • Think of it like a teacher; everyone has different learning styles. By speaking your customer’s language, you’re helping them understand and educate themselves in the best way possible.

Shaheem learned this strategy by going straight to the source: his customers.

  • When a customer is buying a product, they're buying it to do a job for them.
  • For example, you might buy pizza at Domino’s or a fancy pizza place. But both restaurants serve different jobs. 
  • Domino’s is for fast pizza to feed your kids for dinner. The fancier place might be for a date or the experience rather than just the food.
  • So when Shaheem interacted with his past customers, he asked what jobs were they ultimately trying to accomplish.
  • The answer, obviously, is to get more sales. But why? To attract investors and raise funds? To demonstrate product-market fit? 

The job is seldom just to generate more sales. 

  • Figure out why your client wants to do that to understand your value and contributions.
  • When speaking to a customer, Shaheem doesn’t tell them he’ll get leads or meetings or sales - he tells them he helps with customer discovery and product-market fit.
  • Don’t sell yourself the way everyone else is; sell yourself in a way that demonstrates unique value and an ability to discover a prospect’s underlying needs.
  • If a company tries to put you in a typical mold, say no and emphasize the unique value you bring to the table.

Shaheem’s major takeaway? Do everything you can to understand your customers. Learn how they behave, think, and speak, because that’s who buys and pays for your product.

Visit his company website to get in contact with Shaheem or connect with him on LinkedIn. You can also visit his company’s LinkedIn page for more information. Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with on your sales journey.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple PodcastStitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1490.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Email, cold calls, and LinkedIn messages are all great avenues to connect with your prospect.  But perhaps the most underutilized component of the sales process is (spoiler alert) the proposal itself. Whether you’re a newly established business or one of international renown, an enticing proposal dramatically helps your business efforts. And today, Donald is joined by co-founder and CEO of Proposify, Kyle Racki, to learn how sales leaders and teams can understand the power of the proposal.

Your proposal is a unique space to differentiate yourself from the competition.

  • When a prospect asks for more information, typically a salesperson sends a google doc with raw numbers, small print, and terms and conditions. In other words, you’re missing a critical marketing touchpoint where you can tell your story.
  • The result? Your proposal will be dumped in the (virtual or physical) trash.

Create a proposal that isn’t just a series of words.

  • You’re pitching to a person, not a machine. There’s a thought process behind it that can lead to a better and more personal proposal.
  • Proposals that include images close at a higher rate.
  • Nobody will read a 10-20 page document, but people will skim a proposal for the highlights. Framing your text with images will make it far easier to read.
  • Including images and video makes for a more engaging and interactive experience that communicates the experience of actually working with the company.

Other overlooked proposal elements: 

  • Sometimes people will accept the first proposal they get, regardless of pricing or offerings. And even if there are discrepancies, there is a positive correlation between the speed of proposal delivery and closing rates.
  • If you make a prospect wait two weeks for a proposal, they’ll have already solved the problem or found a different solution. 16% of proposals are won within 5 minutes of it being sent, and 42% within 24 hours.
  • If your prospect opens it twice, they’re interested. But if they open it four or more times, the chance to close goes down.
  • The great thing about the proposal file is that you can see proposal open rates and how many times people click through it.
  • Proposal reviews, whether over-the-phone or in-person, with the prospect, lead to better closing rates because you can clarify points and directly address potential objections.

Kyle’s major takeaway? If you put more effort into sending a fast proposal (and still put effort into it) you’ll edge out most of the competition.

Check out proposify.com to check out the platform and their blog, which contains helpful sales and proposal information. You can also connect with Kyle directly on LinkedIn. Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with on your sales journey.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple PodcastStitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1489.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

When it comes to sales, standing out from the competition often comes down to how successfully you differentiate yourself from competitors. But how can we do that? Today on The Sales Evangelist,  Donald is joined by Mark Harari, author, podcaster, and VP of Remodelers Advantage, to discuss how you can position yourself to stand out in a crowded market. 

The one thing you should do to differentiate yourself:

  • The one thing Mark recommends (and he discusses further in his book) is to identify what makes you unique.
  • You’re facing other people, products, and platforms just as good as you who do the same thing. So what sets you apart?
  • What sets you apart and differentiates you can be what leads to a prospect selecting you over someone else.

Differentiation is critical.

  • If you don’t have that differentiating factor, the selection comes down to price, which isn’t good for anybody. Instead, make yourself the obvious choice.
  • A common barrier to differentiation is targeting an entire area of people rather than focusing on a specific section of people you can connect and interact with.
  • To find your ideal target group (if you’re an existing company), go back to your past client list and identify the best types of people you worked with. 
  • For new businesses, there might be trial and error. But try to identify who you think would be the ideal fit for your company and adjust as you continue to grow and develop.

The six parts of a successful positioning statement:

  • Identify your target
  • Identify their unmet need (which your service or product solves)
  • Frame your competitors
  • Find your point of difference: What makes you unique 
  • Reasons to believe: Statements that empower and prove the point of difference.
  • Brand personality

Discovering that unmet need:

  • There are two components to an unmet need: functional and emotional.
  • People rarely have a personal functional need. That means capitalizing on your unique value to address the emotional need is where you can stand out. 

Mark’s major takeaway? Identifying your unique selling proposition can be challenging. To find yours, try thinking backward. What goes wrong when a company works with a bad seller or product? How could you prevent those bad things from happening? That could help you identify where you differentiate in the process.

Connect with Mark on LinkedIn, and check out his book at bethelobster.com or find it on Amazon. Then, join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow alongside!

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master sales fundamentals and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple PodcastStitcher, or Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1488.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

As we kick off our latest series on the importance of differentiation from competition in the sales process, Donald is joined by Tim Pollard to learn more about message building. As the CEO of Oratium, he’s learned the importance of messaging that delivers results and makes an impact on its audience.

The most common messaging problems:

  • There is no differentiation. Differentiation has to be embedded somewhere. Otherwise, you will not be memorable.
  • Three toxic mistakes characterize the way we structure messaging:
    • We pack too much into messaging. Forty-slide decks are overwhelming, and nobody pays attention to them.
    • Most modern sales messaging is too confusing or has an unclear value proposition.
    • Almost all messaging is self-oriented. It’s about the salesperson or their company instead of relating it to the client.
  • This leads to two problems:
    • The initial sales meeting isn’t compelling. 
    • Most messaging fails the retellability test.

The goal shouldn’t be first meeting success; it should be second meeting success.

  • You should tell your story in that first sales meeting. But It’s even more about that person’s ability to retell your story and solution in their private meeting with a decision-maker later on (AKA the second meeting.) 
  • Sales messaging has an important goal: retellability. You can’t speak just to the interest of the person in the meeting, you have to talk to the interests of that next meeting.
  • This is even more difficult when virtual. It’s more complicated than remembering to wear pants; it’s moving a social practice to an asocial environment.

Think about the clarity and specificity of your message.

  • If you have too much information, you have even less chance of keeping attention.
  • The loss of feedback and social cues when virtual can be a barrier to success.
  • It’s a paradox of communication - we do things we hate to experience ourselves.
  • We go back and do the things that don’t work - it’s out of habit and it’s easy to continue to do it. And nobody has ever given a workable model.

The true key to breaking bad habits is to teach a workable and different solution.

  • You’ve got to know your story. If you’re reading from a deck, you won’t succeed.
  • To learn how to develop better communication habits, check out Tim’s books The Compelling Communicator and Mastering the Moment.
  • Oratium has a ten-lesson e-learning for designing and executing a sales conversation, designed specifically for a virtual environment, on their website.

Tim’s major takeaway? Many people try to whittle down their messaging by cutting a deck from 50 to 25 slides. Just stop using the deck altogether! Instead, fundamentally restructure your communication to no longer use a failed model. Create an aligned messaging structure based on what works. Connect with Tim on LinkedIn.

Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with!

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple PodcastStitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1487.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today’s episode kicks off the latest Sales Evangelist series: differentiating from your competitors! As we move into this series, it’s time you learn three easy ways you can stand out from the competition. (Best of all, the majority of sales reps aren’t doing these things.) 

But why is differentiating critical?

  • You have so many other salespeople to compete against. 
  • When one person stands out from the other, they’re more likely to land the sale (even if your products do the exact same thing.)
  1. Be curious.
  • Most salespeople go into a conversation and ask boilerplate questions. The problem? Everyone asks those questions, so you aren’t getting any more information than your competition. 
  • Sales reps should come to the table with information that leads to better questions, which means finding the right intel. Not only what the prospect and their company are doing, but why they’re doing it. 
  1. Stay one step ahead.
  • Determine how you can be one step ahead of the competition. 
  • Have an agenda when you go into the meeting. Send a recap email once you’re finished. If a prospect sees those things, they’ll see the effort and understand that you want to make positive changes for their organization.
  • Especially when you have a meeting with a business executive, they might have 15 meetings a day. Sending an agenda shows these business professionals that you mean business.
  1. Be creative.
  • Think outside the box! Find ways you can do something other people simply don’t do.
  • Find some way to personalize a message. Handwrite a note. Send a small gift. Just try to make yourself stand out, and the prospect will notice.

And of course, a bonus tip: make them look good:

  • Make the prospect look good, either internally or externally. 
  • Maybe you write a nice post on LinkedIn talking about them, adding a quote they said to show you were paying attention. 
  • Mention an article they published or were posted in, and share that with your audience. They’ll certainly appreciate the sentiment!

Join Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers, to find a community of people to share, reflect, and grow with!

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1486.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today’s plan is simple: Donald is sharing his number one productivity strategy for sales. What is it? Find out on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist. 

 

Focus on one thing at a time. (Earth-shattering, I know.)

  • This idea might not be crazy, but the results that come of it sure can be.
  • Only 2.5% of people are able to multitask successfully. (That’s a very slim number of people.)
  • That means you probably can’t respond to clients, check your email, and prospect on LinkedIn while maintaining the standards you would for just one thing.
  • But even if you can, no matter how productive you are, it isn’t as efficient as focusing on one singular task at hand.

 

How does this affect our productivity?

  • You get an email. You leave your current task to check your email. That email leads you to check your availability for a get-together. You check Facebook for information about the get-together. You start to watch videos while on Facebook. Before you know it, an hour has gone by, and you still haven’t finished the task at hand. Sound familiar? 
  • Donald’s advice? Close the tabs and remove the distractions that aren’t conducive to the task at hand.
  • Even you’re one of the 2.5% who can actually multitask, do what you can to ensure you’re giving your best to the task at hand, and only do one thing if you find yourself slacking or not performing your best.
  • Create the proposal or update the CRM. But close ESPN, Facebook, and those 15 different google docs. 
  • Remember, the more productive you are throughout your day, the more tasks you’re able to check off.

 

Do you have a productivity hack? Share it in Donald’s Facebook group, The Sales Evangelizers! (But don’t do it while working on something. We’ll be here when you’re done.)

 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

 

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

 

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1485.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

If there was a way for you, as a salesperson, to make more money, would you? (We hope you’d answer yes to that question.) Don’t worry, we got you! Today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist features Roy Redd, who shares his three strategies for you to make more money, have a bigger impact, and take more time off (which sure sounds like a deal to us.)

USP: Determine your unique selling proposition.

  • Make your business unique. Dominoes Pizza changed the pizza game with their “hot and ready in thirty minutes or it’s free.”
  • Know what your company offers, what your message is, and what you can deliver.
  • What can you do that’s unique? Can you guarantee something? Is it speed? Is it language? There are many ways to be different.
  • Roy’s podcast, The Entrepreneur Underdog, is different. Why? Because it tailors to specific emotional perception of some entrepreneurs. 
  • The best method to identify your USP is to ask your audience. Ask them why they worked with you? Go through those responses to see what stands out to your customers.

Positioning: Be the guru at the top of a mountain in your industry.

  • Tony Robbins is the best-positioned person in his space. There are multiple ways to put yourself at the top. Get to the point where you’re realized as the best in your game. 
  • How do you get to that point? It’s all about branding. 
  • A brand is artifacts in the market that say who you are and what you do. 
  • Depending on what your business, maybe you write a book, speak at a presentation or conference, or even create a course. 
  • The most well-positioned people show they can help educate and provide information people want. 

Systems: Money doesn’t create freedom, systems do. 

  • You got into business for the freedom. Business owners have a hundred things they’re doing and a hundred things they aren’t. Figure out what’s working, and do that.
  • Use lead results and measures to set up a plan to get you where you want to go. For example, Roy knows for every 150 managers he emails, he gets one repsonse. Plan your goals and daily schedule around that.

Why do people have challenges creating systems?

  • It’s not about time management; it’s about energy management. 
  • You’ve got to hire, delegate, and prioritize the tasks that make you successful and develop systems around those strategies. Whether that’s email outreach, LinkedIn messaging, utilize it. (And take advantage of AI!))
  • Anything you do consistently can be automated. Figure out how to automate your workload to develop systems.

Major takeaway: There are only two ways to grow sales: pricing (charging more) and improving business processes (which is utilizing the three strategies in the episode.)

To get in touch with Roy, DM him on Instagram (@roy_redd) and visit his website for a free downloadable book that dives deeper into today’s topics. You can also connect with him on LinkedIn

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1484.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

When you have sales meetings with your prospects, the last you need is a boring presentation turning people away from your awesome content. You want them to get excited! And on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Alex Dripchak, relationship manager at Mercer, to give us his inside tips to learn how to lead, run, and organize effective meetings.

 

Why is Alex so passionate about demystifying sales?

  • Alex founded and runs Commence, a college to career development skill program.
  • He’s also recently published a book on destigmatizing sales for younger people, which breaks down the positive traits and skills salespeople have.
  • With 57 U.S. colleges having an official sales major, the word “sales” is slowly become less of a dirty word. However, there is an entrenched viewpoint people need to overcome.

 

How can you lead effective meetings in your sales life?

  • There are components of meetings, whether virtual or in-person, that just suck. Namely, when people push their own agendas down your throat. So, how instead can you turn that into an effective meeting?
  • Structure your meetings around reaching individual goals that lead to the end result.
  • Keep yourself dynamic and versatile in responding to the needs of individual clients.
  • Ask better questions that lead to higher engagement to encourage the prospect’s voice.
  • To save time, create a framework to use for every first call, contract negotiation, or meeting with a specific purpose. Then, tailor that framework for individual clients, so you don’t recreate the wheel each time.

 

The Three Strategies:

  • Shut up and listen
  • Develop effective questions
  • Rehearse and practice

 

Of course, what would TSE be without a bonus strategy?

  • Understand the subtlety between question and engagement prompts. 
  • The default is inertia, or lack of movement. Get your prospects to engage with you.
  • For example, Alex responds, “did I answer your question in full” after answering a prospect’s question.
  • Not only does this put the onus on himself, but it also encourages prospects to further indicate if they need more explanation. 
  • Integrate engagement prompts throughout a presentation or meeting to keep people focused. Don’t set aside 20 minutes for a Q&A that may or may not be needed.
  • Stop treating people as roles, prospects, and managers. Think of them as people. They aren’t just invested in the company, they’re invested in themselves. 

 

Alex’s major takeaway: Especially in complex sales, make sure you spend time proportionally to its importance. If you aren’t bordering on something tedious and tiresome for an important task, you haven’t gone far enough.

 

To get in contact with Alex, you can find him at his website (which includes links and information to his new book), his coaching website for current college students and recent graduates, or connect with him on LinkedIn.

 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

 

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

 

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1483.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Developing a sales pitch can be time-consuming and challenging, especially when creating an entirely new presentation or document each time. But there’s undoubtedly an easier process, right? That’s exactly what today’s guest did. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Jason Lapp, the president and COO of Beautiful.ai, to explain how you can cut your pitch development time in half.

But first, what is a pitch?

  • Pitches can look wildly different for each person and company. Some might be an in-person meeting, some just a document, and others somewhere in between.
  • In today’s world of remote selling, you have to be highly engaging, have great content, and be precise.  
  • The biggest change? You can no longer expect a decision at that moment. You have to focus on the follow-up, sending the right information, in addition to the pitch itself.
  • A big challenge with creating a deck is finding a balance between premade content and content for your specific pitch. 
  • Branding should always be consistent, but the method you convey aspects of your pitch could vary.
  • There are 30 million presentations created per day, and over 1 billion people with presentation software installed on their desktops.

The challenge? Those common presentation platforms were created 30 years ago.

  • Platforms like Canva and Beautiful.ai don’t force people to start from scratch; they provide a starting point to get things done faster.
  • Beautiful.ai focuses on design automation. You create content based on what you want to say while the platform designs for you. 
  • Marketing departments can (and should) build out templates to provide starting points for the salesperson. This way, salespeople have pre-approved content they can then tweak for their specific client.

Creating a pitch:

  • Once you know what you want to present, storyboard concepts before production. Storyboarding cuts down time by filling in the dots instead of plotting out where the dots need to go.
  • Use some sort of collaborative platform, especially in today’s virtual marketplace.
  • Salespeople need to focus on sales. They shouldn’t waste time on marketing elements when they could have pre-approved templates with design elements pre-approved.

Somebody out there is asking, “why not use google slides?”

  • Google slides is excellent. Any platform that allows for collaboration is certainly a step in the right direction.
  • The challenge with slides, keynote, or PowerPoint is that they are primarily design softwares. You can use old decks, but you then make each design edit yourself, whereas Beautiful.ai makes design decisions for you. 
  • We do things as sales professionals that were established over the decades. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right. We no longer have to be designers. 

Jason’s major takeaway? Don’t reinvent the wheel. If you’re creating a pitch, you should have content and templates to start from. Don’t spend time designing, spend time on selling. To contact Jason, visit his company website Beautiful.ai, and the software is free to trial and use. And, anybody that mentions they came from The Sales Evangelist gets 25% off! (How can you resist that?)

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1482.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Time management is often considered one of the essential skills to master in the professional world. As one of the resources we never seem to have enough of, time certainly is a resource to use to the best of our abilities. But today’s guest, Antonio Thornton, argues that time management doesn’t exist. How does it not? Check out today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist to find out!

Why does time management not exist? 

  • How many hours in the day do you have? 24. Just like everyone else. You can’t manage time, but you can manage yourself according to time.
  • Managing yourself within time comes down to three main criteria: monitoring, monetizing, and maximizing your time.

Monitoring your time:

  • Most people have no idea what they’re doing. Most people confuse busy with productive - they do not equate.
  • Productive does not equate to profitable. 
  • The productivity paradox: People tend to focus on tasks that make them feel productive, even if they aren’t profitable.
  • Cleaning out your inbox or desk and shuffling papers might keep you busy, but those tasks aren’t productive.

Monetizing your time:

  • There is no difference between each other’s times. Most of us spend time on activities that don’t generate revenue - responding to email, completing training, and updating websites. While these things might be necessary, they aren’t RGAs: revenue-generating activities.
  • It doesn’t matter how much work you put into these activities; you won’t make any money no matter how much time you contribute.
  • Learning and training are productive tasks, and research is a productive activity that can inform you before a sales call, but those tasks in of themselves aren’t profitable. If you only do those tasks, you will not make a single dollar.
  • Whether you’re a salesperson or entrepreneur, there’s only one thing that makes money in sales: getting an offer in front of people.

Maximizing your time:

  • The difference between a salesperson who generates $60,000 versus $6 million is all in what they do each day.
  • Ask yourself how you can leverage what you’re doing to create an exponential result.
  • Find the tasks and projects you can accomplish that lead to a higher amount of RGA.

Antonio’s final takeaway? Time is our most valuable commodity. To have a great life, moderate, monetize, and maximize your time. To get in touch with him, visit his company website or send an email to time@timebank.gps.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1481.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

We often overlook one area when working in sales, and it’s not prospecting, closing, or even relationship-building. It’s productivity. 79% of sales executives say improving productivity is the leading driver to reach or exceed a sales target. So, in today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald gives three reasons why salespeople have a hard time planning, and hopefully, you’ll be able to find the productivity that leads to sales success.

 

 

  • There’s no formal education to teach productivity for salespeople.

 

  • This is from a company standpoint. There are programs (like ours), but internally, organizations don’t spend time teaching productivity. 
  • 49% of organizations have zero or limited means of measuring productivity.
  • Donald’s team uses an internal planner he designed to help prioritize productive and measurable tasks.
  • Sales reps frequently believe they don’t have the time to do everything they need. But after analyzing their day or week, they always find areas where they can focus on more meaningful activities.

 

 

  • Multiple things change gears at different speeds.

 

  • Sales reps have multiple activities unrelated to success, like researching leads and updating a CRM. None of those directly lead to a sale, but it’s part of an overall process. 
  • Only one-third of a sales rep’s day is talking to prospects, yet 21% of their day is writing emails. Is this a valuable way to spend time?
  • Kevin Kruse’s 15 Secrets Successful People Know About Time Management recommends blocking out your day in 15-minute intervals. 
  • Designate one, two, or however many chunks of time you need for daily tasks, and be dedicated and focused for those specific segments. 
  • Donald’s tip? Utilize a platform like Otter, Google Docs, or even your iPhone to use a voice-to-text feature that writes what you need to put into your CRM.

 

 

  • We have a reactive approach to selling.

 

  • Sales is traditionally reactive to the interest of the seller. Instead, you should have a strategy and process in place. 
  • Think of yourself as a rocket scientist. Your schedule is likely filled with redundancies (although yours are probably far less important than the scientist’s. We know it’s true.)
  • 50% of a sales rep is wasted on unproductive things. Are you focusing on the right activities? Look at and evaluate your day. Would you be able to say those are proactive activities?

 

The moment you can recognize that your time is valuable and you’re more than a cog in a wheel, you can take control of your schedule. 

 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

 

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

 

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, designed to help new and struggling sellers master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1480.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 7:31am EDT

In many organizations, to get to the decision-maker, you have to get past a gatekeeper. So how do you get to them? Getting past that gatekeeper is a common challenge among salespeople. But we wanted to change that. So we brought in EksAyn “Eks” Anderson, the man who’s got the key to the metaphorical gate. And on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, he shares his strategies to get to your decision-makers.

Eks is more than just a salesperson. 

  • In addition to speaking, training, and coaching for different organizations, Eks is also the author of The Key to the Gate.
  • His book is an excellent resource for anyone who encounters difficulty reaching their desired decision-maker.

Why people have a hard time getting to the decision-makers:

  • Decision-makers don’t have time to talk to every single salesperson or person who wants a meeting.
  • They employ gatekeepers (like a secretary, receptionist, or employee) to weed out people who might be wasting their time. 

Strategies to get past the gatekeeper:

  • Know that no organization is the same. What might work at one place might fail elsewhere.
  • Apply the principle of positive reinforcement. When somebody does something helpful for you, reward them immediately. 
  • Start higher than you think you need because influence flows downhill. If you’re in doubt about where to start in the organization, call the higher person than you think you need. Often, they’ll know who to speak to be in a position for success. 

Is cold calling dead?

  • It’s so easy to send mass emails or LinkedIn messages. And from a decision-maker’s perspective, they might want a service but have no time to wade through the immense amount of communication they receive each day. 
  • To find more success, differentiate yourself from your competitors. Something as small as complimenting the secretary or researching some quick facts on your phone could make all the difference. 
  • When the person you talk with provides names of others within the organization, note those names and their positions within the company. 
  • If you understand the team and their positions within the organization, you’ll give a sense of deep familiarity with the company. 

Eks’ final takeaway? Find out the principles of human relations to sales and then base your techniques around principles that work. If you understand certain principles, you’ll develop a thousand techniques to apply that principle. Techniques work because they’re backed by real principles. Connect with Eks through his website on www.xfactoredge.com or call him directly at 801-669-2425.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1479___rev2.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 1:35am EDT

Working in sales would be infinitely more manageable if you could get the gatekeeper to work for you instead of against you. But how do you start that process? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Taskdrive’s general manager Daniel Viduya to discuss making the gatekeeper an advocate through lead research.  

 

Sales isn’t Lord of the Rings.

  • While there can be a Gandalf “You shall not pass” situation when talking to a gatekeeper, there are ways to make them your advocate.
  • Daniel’s advice: Don’t bro me until you know me; meaning you have no business talking about people in the company until you understand the company itself
  • When convincing a gatekeeper to let you pass, personal information or questions about the decision-maker will not help you.
  • Instead of talking about personal information, talk about the account itself and the problems they experience as a whole. See what difference you can make.

 

Demonstrate that you want to help and can provide solutions for that company’s specific problem.

  • It's about knowing the business and how you can help the business. The gatekeeper wants to see how you can help the business because the gatekeeper is working for the company, not necessarily for the decision-maker.
  • The goal is to measure how quickly you could even get through the first stage of your cold call. And if you can't do that, then there's something that has to be fixed.
  • And more often than not, people will tend to hang up on you if they don't understand your cold call’s true intent and purpose.

 

How can you find information to start the right dialogue with the gatekeeper? 

  • If you have a resource that can find this information for you consistently and constantly, day by day, then your SDR can simply rely on one thing that this resource can give.
  •  It's about efficiency. And while multitasking is good, there are times when the prospect simply wants, needs, and deserves your full attention.
  • There are several ways to save time while finding the information necessary to demonstrate knowledge to the gatekeeper. You could use an outsource provider, find someone inside your company, or even hire a freelancer. Your solution depends on your needs and your situation.
  • The specific information you should find always depends on the target company itself. It could be recent team growth, acquisitions, new funding, or even a merger.

 

Daniel’s final takeaway? Bring out what's best to help your SDRs be efficient. Limit admin tasks and have them focus on what they do best. To get in touch with Daniel, connect with him on LinkedIn or visit Testdrive.com to access Daniel’s playbooks for better business. 

 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

 

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

 

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1478.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Scoring a meeting with the decision-maker can be challenging, but creating allies within the target company can be your strategy for making progress. Sometimes all it takes to get past the gatekeeper is to build a solid relationship with them. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re going to do just that with the help of today’s guest Kevin Cummings.

 

Kevin has worked in many different sales spaces, from industrial to medical to tech.

  • .Throughout all his sales interactions, Kevin feels most confident when revisiting offices. 
  • But even if it’s the second, third, or fourth visit, he’ll sometimes end up talking to people who act like it’s his first (even if he’s spoken to them several times.)
  • To avoid that, Kevin makes an active effort to loop those people into the conversation.
  • Make them feel as important as possible because while they aren’t the “decision-maker,” they can make your job tremendously more difficult.

 

Make connections with the gatekeeper:

  • Ask them what the best method is is to talk with them. Then, stop talking and let them identify how they want to interact with you.
  • Many salespeople know the gatekeeper is essential, yet we treat them as if they aren’t.
  • You can’t always determine who has the influence, so be nice to everyone. Beyonce says “hello” and “thank you” to everyone she meets. Be like Beyonce.
  • When you’re genuine with someone, they can feel it. But, conversely, being fake won’t generate the results you want.

 

Don’t be afraid to interact with the gatekeeper.

  • Especially in the tech and medical fields, the actual decision-maker might not have the time or bandwidth to go out to lunch or have drinks with the salesperson. So why not do it with the gatekeeper?
  • When Kevin does this, it’s usually only about 15 minutes of business talk. The rest is just building a relationship and connection with the gatekeeper. 
  • While that person can’t make the decision, they’ll remember you and want to get you in contact with the person that can.
  • Your ultimate goal? Make everyone in the office your champion and advocate.

 

Help them, don’t help yourself.

  • Since Covid, many people in companies across the country have had to and continue to wear many hats.
  • Don’t try to sell immediately, and instead ask how you can take things off their plate.
  • Be human, and do the thing that a good human would do.
  • Don’t put your title first. You might be a salesperson, but humanity comes before titles.

 

Kevin’s major takeaway? Understand that your customers’ objective in their job is not to buy your product or service. Everything you do should be about them, not about you. 

 

National Sales Network, a nonprofit organization for black people in sales and marketing, has 17 chapters across the country. Visit the website to find networking events, skill workshops, and hiring opportunities on their website. 

 

To get in touch with Kevin, connect with him on LinkedIn.

 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

 

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

 

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1477.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

At the end of the day, sales leaders should be able to do what they have their team to do. Because sometimes you’re telling them to do one thing when you do something entirely different. Today on The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Ruben Alvarez to discuss why team leaders should lead by example, not just through talking.

Ruben learned to lead by example while leading a team.

  • If you want somebody to do what you want them to, you're going to see resistance unless they see you do it as well. 
  • Sales leaders might be setting unrealistic expectations for their team and not know it because they’re no longer selling.
  • Some people have been selling for 30 years, but with only one year of experience. Because they’re drawing their management from only one year of actual selling, they might not be leading as effectively as they could be if they were up-to-date on the best sales practices.
  • If you’re not willing to get on the phone with your team and teach them how to close, you’ll never see sales come in. The process isn’t always how you want it to be, but how it needs to be.

What should team leaders do to practice leading by example? 

  • Hone your skills. Just like in any other industry, you encourage and motivate through showing. If you do something effectively and can either demonstrate or communicate how you did it effectively, people will want to follow you.
  • Many sales leaders are afraid to demonstrate because it makes them seem vulnerable,  which leads to the team not viewing you as a leader.
  • But leaders inspire hope. You can be vulnerable and have people chew you out, but closing the deal is all that matters and all that the sales team wants to see.
  • Finally, don’t compromise the values you know your team has. You know what each person is capable of, and you know what’s best for them.
  • Company owners have an idea of what sales should look like. But their experiences might not align with what the sales team needs to do to be successful. If that is the case, stick up for what you know will work, or you might lose the respect of your team.

Ruben’s final takeaway:

  • If you’re afraid to pick up the phone, just admit it and pick up the phone. See what happens. Regardless of what ends up happening, you’ll feel better about it.
  • Connect with Ruben Alvarez on LinkedIn or check out his website rubenalvarez.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1473.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Can sales make the world a better place? The principles we learn in sales can be used almost anywhere. And yes, that includes making the world around us a better place. Today’s guest, Scott Roy, joins us in the studio to share how he uses his sales skills to do good and help those around him.

Scott has worked in the sales industry for over twenty years.

  • He and his business partner Roy Whitten created Whitten and Roy Partnership, a sales consultancy called when teams aren’t reaching their sales goals.
  • Their main selling point (pun intended)? The DQ selling methodology.
  • With the DQ methodology, Roy and Whitten can sell life-changing and life-saving goods and services to developing countries. 

How do they apply selling principles to do good?

  • About 20 years ago, there was a sudden interest in applying business principles to address areas that typically used aid and philanthropy.
  • When done well and ethically, the sales conversation convinces people unfamiliar with concepts to buy into these materials and supplies that will give them a better way of life.
  • Scott’s primary example is selling water filtration systems. In areas where people use the same water source for drinking, bathing, and using the restroom, the people there are afflicted with diarrhea and other diseases.
  • Scott’s team works to convince these people why they should use a water filtration system by explaining both the cost benefit and health benefit the people will receive.

Using DQ to make a change:

  • DQ is short for business intelligence, the fundamental component for Scott’s selling process.
  • If you’re going to change behavior, you have to penetrate deeper than simply finding a problem and then selling directly to that problem.
  • DQ selling starts with the problem and stays on the issue so the prospect can realize it is a problem worth solving.

Scott’s major takeaway: 

  • Determine your purpose as a salesperson. If it’s just to pitch, persuade, and convince, that’s not necessarily wrong. But it would be so much better if you figure out how to use your skills to serve others and find passion in the people you’re serving.
  • To get in contact with Scott and learn more about his work, visit his company website.
  • Check out Scott and Roy’s books Decision Intelligence Selling and Sell Well, Do Good.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1472.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Salespeople have heard the mantra thousands of times: talk less, listen more. But why? And more importantly, how? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by leadership advisor Victoria Song to learn how salespeople (and anyone else) can balance listening and talking.

Why do people talk so much?

  • While there are many reasons, Victoria suggests that people who felt unheard as a child might overshare in an attempt to bridge understanding.
  • In general, when we want things to go our way, we think that if we can get the other person to see it our way, they’ll agree. That leads to talking too much.
  • In actuality, people mirror one another. So, listening rather than talking will lead someone to reciprocate and hear you.

Victoria’s top components for a golden ratio:

  • The talking-to-listening ratio is not a one-size-fits-all. But in general, a 50/50 split is a great place to start.
  • However, the more escalated a conversation is, the more Victoria recommends you back off and give the other person more time to speak.
  • It also comes down to personality - if you tend to speak first and jump into conversations, listen 70-80% of the time and vice versa.

What to do in a disagreement:

  • Rather than sit on opposite sides of a board room table, sit on the same side. Look at the problem from the same perspective, and by working on the same side, you’ll feel more like a team.
  • Think about the story attached to identity. When in disagreement, we sometimes realize we aren't talking about the topic anymore. We're making up a story around our identity, making it personal.
  • The more we can be transparent with ourselves and the other party, the more likely we are to get to a place where we can hear each other better.

Contraction vs. Expansion

  • Victoria’s new book Bending Reality defines two clear states a person can be in: contraction or expansion.
  • Contraction is the state where your nervous system is activated (think fight-or-flight response.) On the other hand, expansion is a relaxed state conducive to creativity and problem-solving. 
  • When in a work environment, putting yourself in an environment that encourages expansion will lead to success.

How to be in a state of expansion:

  • One way to improve our access to expansion is to notice when our nervous system is activated. 
  • Notice your fuel for motivation, and use that to keep yourself in the proper headspace (both mentally and physically.)
  • Part of accessing expansion is to start to get clear on what are your clean, sustainable fuels.
  • Discover your purpose, uncover your values, and figure out what brings you joy.
  • The more we can cultivate doing things we enjoy, the more we train our nervous system to be conditioned to a state of expansion.

Applying this framework to sales:

  • Ask yourself if you are in a state of contracting or expanding, especially when talking to prospects. Are you confident enough to ask effective questions?
  • You want to get out of your head. It's not just about mental preparation; it’s cultivating the physical state.
  • If you felt unprepared for a meeting, one way to cultivate the state of expansion would be to establish a sense of trust. This can come from practice and repetition. 

Victoria’s parting advice:

  • Listening happens with your whole body. 
  • When we tune in and listen to our entire body, we understand insights and cues that we wouldn't be picking up otherwise.
  • To get in contact with Victoria, check out her website, www.victoriasong.me
  • Victoria’s book Bending Reality is available for preorder! Preorder now to get free bonus access to powerful coaching techniques Victoria uses for her clients.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1471.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Sales is all about solving problems. But are you going about solving problems the right way? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by guest Bryan Kelly to discuss how we can ask more beautiful questions, using the book A More Beautiful Question by Warren Berger as a framework.

 

Phase One: Why?

  • When we ask ‘why,’ it requires you to adjust the way you look at the world. There are three different ways to get into this mentality.
  • First, step back and disengage. Taking a break will break up your routine and help inspiration strike.
  • Next, challenge your assumptions. Whether they’re your assumptions or the assumptions of others, asking questions about your current process will help you find new avenues to explore.
  • Finally, question the questions. Reframe a question to challenge the expected answer. 
  • Remember the five why’s. (Literally ask the question “why” five times in a row to get to the root understanding of the situation.)

 

Phase Two: Wondering “What If?”

  • Get everybody (including yourself) to avoid thinking about specifics. Similar to phase one, there are a few practices you can implement:
  • Combinatorial thinking is one method where you look at combining existing practices and how that combination can lead to new possibilities.
  • Next, you can live with the question. We often try to answer questions in the moment, but that’s not usually necessary. Instead, take time to relax and distance yourself from a problem to view the situation with a fresh perspective. 
  • Finally, think of wrong ideas. It might seem counterproductive, but this process can help lead to the concept you need.

 

Phase Three: Determining How

  • We want to jump to the “how” of a solution, but there’s a reason it’s the last stage. If you start there, you’re missing the critical time to go deeper into the question itself.
  • Converge the ideas you’ve explored into one idea worth pursuing and share it for feedback.
  • Give form to the ideas you’ve worked through. Before you go and ask others for feedback, bring the idea to life. 
  • In other industries, it might look like a prototype. In the sales space, write a summary, proposal, chart, or whatever would help people give the best feedback.
  • Rapidly test and learn. If you have several potential solutions, run a quick test to see how the change affects your problem. 

 

Bryan’s final takeaway:

  • Instead of jumping to the “how,” first think about the “why.”
  • To get in touch with Bryan, visit his website getstrokeofgenius.com or connect with him on LinkedIn.

 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

 

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

 

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1470.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by founder and CEO of Whale Boss, Ryan Staley. As a sales consultant who helps sales executives double their income, he’s learned from and watched many different organizations, thus knowing how you can hire top sellers with little experience at your company. 

Why did Ryan start a consultancy firm?

  • Ryan noticed there are many things he took for granted working for a large organization that small business owners, startups, and SaaS companies weren’t doing. That was part of the reason he founded his consultancy firm, because he wanted to coach CEOs on those things.
  • Small businesses, startups, and SaaS companies do an amazing job building products or services, but they don’t talk to thier customers after they sell them the deal.
  • Maintaining a structured value process will exponentially increase referrals and revenue.

Ryan’s corporate job showed him the power of a good team:

  • Working over sixty hours a week got Ryan to a point where all his relationships started to melt down. The constant travel and excessive hours meant he didn’t have time for family, friends, or himself.
  • What did he do about it? He rebuilt himself and his mentality about work, and his job performance soared to new heights.
  • He was given the opportunity to build a team to support his work. However, that meant he had to figure out what looked for in a new person. He determined 5 components he looked for in a new hire:

Did they have a hunger to be a top performer?

  • What was the biggest takeaway from that job and why did they leave?
  • He would ask for people to articulate their contributions and results - if they couldn’t, their claims are BS

What do they do to develop outside of work? What’s the most important thing they spend time on outside of work?

  • People might default to family, but finding people with a passion and interest and what lights them up shows how coachable they are.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1469.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The life of a sales manager is tough, and juggling your own obligations often means you don’t have time to coach your team as often as you’d like. Microcoaching might just be the solution for you. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by President and CEO of Salesfuel C. Lee Smith to explain his process and platform for microcoaching to improve his salespeople.

Three problems with coaching today: 

  • Coaches aren’t being held accountable. Sales managers get busy meeting a short-term quota and don’t have time for long-term staff development.
  • Some sales managers are uncomfortable coaching. They think they don’t know how to do it or get pushback from team members.
  • Finally, there are managers who want to put time into coaching, but there are only so many hours in the day and find it challenging to maintain momentum.

Microcoaching is the solution.

  • Short, frequent bursts of 2-6 minute coaching give sales managers the flexibility to maintain coaching momentum between one-on-one meetings through tweeting, text, or slack. 
  • The same principles of coaching apply. Ask questions, don’t just give advice, and supply encouragement and motivation. 
  • But instead of focusing on one big issue, focus on small tactics to provide clear questions for the team member. These “reflect and respond” questions are a significant part of microcoaching. 

How do you know if your microcoaching is effective?

  • There will still be the same issues in regular coaching: both parties must have a positive attitude about the coaching process for it to be successful.
  • However, microcoaching through a platform like Coachfeed removes some awkward conversations that arise throughout the process.
  • Lead by example and show them how coaching is supposed to be done.

AI drives effective microcoaching

  • With Coachfeed’s microcoaching platform, they offer different assessments to help shape the team member’s best results through microcoaching.
  • These assessments reveal infromation about the salesperson, help dictate the coaching structure, and drive the AI engine to identify who needs coaching, what they need coaching on, and how they respond to different communication tactics.
  • Using these creates a personalized coaching playbook for managers to use for follow-up conversations. 
  • Everybody's journey is different because every salesperson is different. And that's a defining part of the Coachfeed mentality. 
  1. Lee’s final piece of advice? Coaching is a long-term play. You might not see the benefits initially, but you’ll be improving your salespeople and your sales process. To get in contact with C.Lee, visit his company website salesfuel.com, coaching platform coachfeed.com, or his personal website cleesmith.com

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1468.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Donald is remote on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, as he’s speaking at the sales conference Outbound. Be on the lookout for next year’s conference! Today’s episode of TSE is simple: we’re going retro.

A brief TSE history.

  • Donald quit his job in July of 2015, and The Sales Evangelist became his full-time gig.
  • Originally the show was only two episodes per week, but it soon expanded to three per week. (because we just love delivering sales content to all of our amazing listeners.)
  • After participating in Podcast Movement for a couple of years, TSE started to create episodes five days a week.
  • But we realized our listeners are busy, and five episodes a week might be too much content, so we doubled back to three episodes per week.

TSE is going retro.

  • Donald thought our downloads would go down when the episode frequency dropped. But surprisingly, it didn’t. In fact, it did better in some instances. 
  • We want to deliver better content. More research. More awesome guests. And that takes time.
  • To create the best content possible, The Sales Evangelist is dropping back to two episodes per week.
  • You’ll see the same length of content but with more storytelling. We’re going back to our roots, so we’re delivering two high-quality episodes per week.
  • Our YouTube videos are also going to be more condensed than ever. If you’re anything like us, the thought of a YouTube video longer than five minutes is a bit daunting. So we’re going to trim our videos to give you the highlights of the episode.

Do you want more TSE content?

Join our Sales Evangelizers groups on LinkedIn and Facebook.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1467.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It doesn’t matter if you’re leading a team of one or one hundred, becoming a better sales leader can always lead to positive change within your organization. And on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Tim Kintz to discuss four areas to promote strengths and identify weaknesses as a sales leader: lead, manage, train, and coach.

Lead

  • Managers are often the least trained employees. And especially for those internally promoted, they might not know how to navigate that change with respect to their fellow employees.
  • As a sales leader, you need to help your employees develop long-term goals. Once those goals are in place, you can work together to set specific and actionable milestones to reach them.

Manage

  • You lead people; you manage things. Are you organized as a sales leader? Do you schedule out your day to accomplish what you need?
  • Not only do you need to manage your time and activities, but you need to manage the statistics and tendencies of your people.
  • Consider managing the detail-focused aspect of leading; it’s a numbers-driven component that can ensure you and your people reach your goals.

Train

  • Success is all about having a straightforward, repeatable process. Do your employees know what they need to do to be successful 100% of the time?
  • This process doesn’t mean they’ll achieve perfection every time, but they’ll at least know what steps can get them to that goal.
  • Training isn’t just telling, it’s selling. Show them how the training you want them to do positively affects their performance.
  • Tim encourages his employees to take ownership of their training. If they have a hand in developing the decision or route of action, they’ll be more likely to stick with it.
  • Mental ownership comes before physical or financial ownership.

Coach

  • Just because you know something doesn’t mean you can do it; practice and repetition are the mothers of learning.
  • Amateurs practice until they get it right, but pros practice until they can’t get it wrong.
  • Coaching isn’t just about providing knowledge to your people; it’s about taking time to practice with your people to help them get better.

Tim’s final takeaway? You have to earn the right to be a leader. Think of your people as emotional banks. Make consistent deposits through recognition and approval so you can make withdrawals without overdrawing that account.

Check out Tim’s book Fearless on Amazon or kintzgroup.com. If you want to get ahold of Tim, connect with him on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1466.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Just like for many other industries, hiring sales positions has inherited problems because of the pandemic. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Brian Trautschold, COO and co-founder of sales management platform Ambition, to discuss three things companies can do to navigate a hybrid sales workforce. Whether you’re a huge company or just a dozen people, COVID is evening the hiring playing field, and integrating these three components can help you acquire the kind of employees you want.

Build a company culture, whether it be virtual or in-person.

  • Some company cultures are just fake - think Michael Scott trying to build a culture at Dunder Mifflin.
  • When creating your own company culture, the key is to be authentic.
  • Recognize people as they reach their milestones, and show genuine care for your employees and their aspirations.
  • Especially when employees don’t have the support of an in-person team, it’s easy to lose motivation without recognition.

Engage your workforce to overcome distractions.

  • There are no shortage of distractions in the virtual workplace. Whether it’s an extended lunch or a quick Netflix binge, the typical 9-5 is more elusive than ever.
  • To give your employees the greatest chance for success, provide easy-to-use tools to hold themselves accountable.
  • People are better at holding themselves accountable than management, especially in a virtual setting. So equipping people with the tools for personal accountability to yield better results than a never-ending stream of Slack messages.

People crave development, coaching, and investment from their employers.

  • Pre-COVID, a great relationship with management is what kept many people working at their current job. (And vice versa.) The introduction to virtual work has broken this. 
  • While Slack can be helpful in communication, you need to have a more proactive approach.
  • As a manager, how do you optimize coaching interactions? The key is to keep track of what you discuss with your employees.
  • Make action steps to help your employees reach their goals. Coaching can’t be a one-off; it’s a part of a narrative.
  • Consider creating KPIs based on the coaching to set actionable steps towards their goals.
  • One major takeaway? Consistent, data-driven coaching is the way of the future to develop happy and productive employees.

Want to get in contact with Brian? Find him on his company website, LinkedIn, or Twitter.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder, written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1465.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The digital shift of the workplace has manifested the need for digital company culture. Digital culture is necessary to improve internal relationships at your company, but it’s integral in expanding your social reach as a company and developing a following that gives you business. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by Tacie Avedikian, VP of Digital Development at Little Bird Marketing, to learn how companies can embrace digital culture to develop a social influence.

But first, what does Tacie mean by social influence?

  • The original meaning has shifted a bit in terms of how people use social media. 
  • Leveraging influencers from B2C platforms like Instagram or Facebook and transferring those things into more B2B platforms like LinkedIn or Twitter is critical. 

The challenges of hiring new team members: 

  • In the current age, being seen online is critical in bringing in suitable candidates.
  • Because of this digital world, company-wide social influence is vital to attract candidates and clients. You attract candidates through sharing valuable content and having employees who advocate for your company.
  • Despite the importance of online culture, you rarely see someone from HR actively promoting on LinkedIn and advocating for their company.
  • When you want to look for somebody, the first thing we do is look online, read reviews, and understand company values. Companies need to ensure their company and themselves are seen and available for this process.

What's the first thing if we wanted to the action plan, and who should lead this?

  • Most importantly, ensure it’s not just one person or department pushing. It’s a team effort to create a digital culture.
  • Learn to be authentic when sharing about the company and yourself.
  • When you create a relationship with someone and see that you're enjoying the company you work for, people get engaged and want to know more.

How can I help my team to be creative and post authentic things?

  • Many people are at home, working with their kids right next to them. This is a shared experience that creates empathy and a connection people can bond over.
  • Develop training, make expectations to your team of what authenticity looks like, and provide opportunities for additional training each quarter or throughout the year.
  • Companies should regularly touch base with their team on their digital culture, whether through Slack or a team chat, to engage and develop relationships.

Tacie’s final advice:

  • Realize that things are not going back to the way they were.
  • A digitally transformed culture is going to change the influence of your audience completely.
  • Tacie’s major takeaway? Unseen is unsold. (We had to repeat it, just one more time.)
  • To get in contact with Tacie, connect with her on LinkedIn or email her at tacie@littlebirdmarketing.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1464.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Many tech companies view the idea of SDRs as advantageous because they deal with the tough or mundane elements of the sales process like cold calling, making lists, and following up with inbound leads. But SDRs, with the proper training and support, can be much more. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by David Dulany, founder and CEO of the research and advisory firm Tenbound, to learn how you can develop your sales bench.

The elements of a good sales bench:

  • Your SDR team is a group of people who, when needed, have learned the skills necessary to jump into a full sales position when one becomes available. 
  • To understand which skills are most valuable, analyze your recruitment process and list out traits that make someone successful at your company. Are they tenacious, proactive, or require specific technical skills?
  • Create a plan to incorporate training elements for each of those skills for your SDR team and develop ways for new hires to understand what they need to be successful right from the get-go.

The biggest mistake we see with SDR teams is not establishing a solid company culture.

  • The old hiring method was simply to churn and burn. But in today’s market, where employees need tools and equipment to be successful, it’s an incredibly inefficient and expensive process.
  • In the modern world, culture is everything. A successful SDR team leader establishes that.
  • To develop the ideal team culture, write down what you want to culture to look like. Once you have a semblance for your vision, integrate elements relating to it into your SDR training process.
  • Sales is becoming an increasingly team-driven activity; the days of the lone wolf are long over.

Provide a path to promotion.

  • Certifications are a great way to break down the goals you want employees to achieve before a promotion.
  • A ladder setup provides concrete goals for SDRs to work towards and promotion opportunities.
  • David’s major tips: For SDRs, take the position seriously; it’s a critical piece of the puzzle. For people leading SDR teams, integrate structure, value, and opportunities within the SDR experience. Doing so will help people take the position more seriously and want to grow within the organization.

To learn more about David’s approach to SDR development, check out his book The Sales Development Framework. Otherwise, visit his company website to find resources to help develop your sales bench.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1463.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

A challenging aspect of a salesperson’s job is business development. One way you can simplify the business development process, however, is through outsourcing. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by Tom Ancona, founder and chief strategist at ROCKyourcompany.com, to discuss how outsourcing can lead to new business development.

The first step to outsourcing: visualize.

  • Think about your goals. If you had a team of people to execute everything you want to do, what is that vision? 
  • Work backward from that vision to determine who will get you to that point.
  • When outsourcing, the words “you get what you give” could not be more accurate. The results and work you get are directly related to the instruction and information you provide.

Develop your vision:

  • Pretend you’re talking to a recently hired assistant - be descriptive in what you want. The more details you provide, the better the project will be. 
  • If the project requires platforms like Sales Navigator, have at least a baseline understand of the software or platform.

Hiring the right candidate can be a challenge.

  • Selecting the right candidate might not be easy, especially at the beginning. It takes experience to find the right kind of people. 
  • The solution? Do your homework. Read their feedback from folks they've worked with. Read both the most recent and most relevant reviews to see into their current headspace and how they’ve finished similar projects.
  • Meet with them and ask tough questions about your expectations. If they give intuitive answers and understand what you're asking, you’ve found a good candidate. 

Understand how freelance platforms operate:

  • When you purchase projects on platforms like Upwork or Fiverr, some have an escrow account. You allocate the money before each project, but you have to approve the project before the money is transferred. This gives you a level of safety in that a freelancer has to complete the project.
  • Don’t hand over passwords to your most valuable assets until you've worked with somebody for a while. 

Tom’s major takeaway and special offer:

  • If you're not doing it now, look at outsourcing as a potential way to break out in your marketplace, as you’ve never done before. 
  • If you’re looking to improve your sales game with free downloadable templates, visit tomancona.com/tse for a free template download for you. To schedule a meeting with Tom, visit Meetwithtom.live to view his calendar.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1462.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Working as a sales manager can be tough. Why make it more challenging than it has to be? And without the proper guidance and support, it can be especially difficult to find the right people for your organization. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by Frank Cespedes, senior lecturer at Harvard business school, to learn his strategy for finding and retaining top-level salespeople.

There are inherent challenges to hiring within sales. 

  • Not enough people in and outside the sales function that there are challenges in hiring sales that don’t exist elsewhere.
  • People major in engineering, accounting, and finance. There are less than 200 sales courses in the United States universities, let alone majors and programs.
  • As a result, most learning in sales is whatever the company does. Companies on average spent 20% more per capita than they do training other positions.
  • Most learning in sales is on-the-job learning that isn’t a challenge in other business areas. Because so much time is spent training, accelerating the productivity ramp up for new hires is crucial for hiring managers.

How can you make the hiring process more manageable?

  • Minimize the biggest hiring mistake: relying solely on one or two unstructured interviews.
  • Research consistently shows the correlation between the ratings people get in interviews and their subsequent on-the-job performance tend to vary by .1 to .4. The perfect candidate’s chances to perform to their expected standard is about as guaranteed as a coin flip.
  • To solve the problem, supplement interviews by including people who aren’t sales, like customer support and product design.
  • Experience is often an important hiring criterion. But in business, there is only experience selling your product. Experience in other organizations might not indicate or guarantee success at others.
  • The most important thing when hiring is knowing what you’re looking for. Don’t think platitudes; think the most important tasks this new person will accomplish.

So what do you do? Start with the fundamentals.

  • Performing fundamentals better than anyone else will lead to success - the who, why, and how of your customer informs you who you’re hiring for.
  • What will the salesperson need to be good to be successful? Conversely, what might they need to be just good enough at? 
  • To determine these behaviors, consider implementing assessments or even internship positions to judge that behavior. 
  • The pandemic showed companies overpay for many tasks in the current sales model;  you want to focus talent on the steps that most impact the sale rather than things like lead generation and demos.

Frank’s major piece of advice to someone managing the hiring process?

  • Know what you’re looking for, start with the buying process, and don’t require platitudes of experience.
  • Recognize that the hiring process doesn’t end with the hire. The sooner you get someone to ramp up their productivity within the organization, the better everyone is.

Read Frank’s new book Sales Management That Works: How to Sell in a World that Never Stops Changing. Want to get in touch with Frank? Visit him on his website or connect with him on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.


Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1461.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Does the thought of hiring a new salesperson fill you with fear? Do you dread the interview process and reading through resumes? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald helps expedite the process of finding the perfect addition to your team by outlining three characteristics every seller must have. 

You want someone curious:

  • When it comes to identifying prospects and their motivations, salespeople need to find the root cause. They need to dig deep, ask the right questions, and find the proper intel to manage their prospects and find sales.
  • Curiosity is asking the right questions that lead to natural conversations. But the suitably curious don’t ask questions that might be offensive or too personal.

You want someone resilient.

  • Persistency and a continual drive to work through challenges are critical for sales. 
  • Working in sales means perseverance. The average sale takes between six to twelve touchpoints to move forward, so tenacity and stamina are necessary to succeed in any sales position. 

You want someone empathetic.

  • Pushy salespeople are no longer in style (if they ever were.) Salespeople who listen and want to help the client will find far more success than a salesperson focused on the sale instead of the person.

The bonus trait: You want someone creative.

  • Thinking outside the box is necessary for sales. When problems inevitably arise (as they do in any business), you want your office filled with creative minds who aren’t afraid to think critically and solve the problem.
  • Seth Godin’s book Purple Cow demonstrates the importance of creativity in business.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1460.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Congrats, you just landed a sales job! But should you accept it? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald provides his three tips to consider before you accept that job offer.

Connect with their current sales team.

  • Directly asking a sales team what their opinions are at their company is a great way to discover the company culture.
  • They aren’t trying to sell you anything - they have nothing to gain from convincing you it’s a great place when, in reality, it isn’t.
  • Finding the sales team is tremendously easy as well because their entire job is centered around being available. 

Determine what customers say about them right now.

  • How do you go about doing this? (It’s easy.) Look through case studies and online reviews to generate names, and reach out to those people on LinkedIn.
  • But why should you do this? It can help you get a good scope of the company and show if they consistently update their work or bank off of case studies from 2008.

Look at Glassdoor and Google Reviews for the company.

  • Nobody is more brutally honest than strangers on the internet, right?
  • Glassdoor is a platform where current and past employees share information about working at the company. 
  • While people might exaggerate on the internet, this can help bring up any concerns you might need to consider before accepting the job.

The main takeaway here is that you really want to know as much about the company as possible before accepting. Limit the surprises you might face, and you’ll be on your way to a great next step in your career.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1459.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Do you wish you had a list of things to avoid when looking for your next sales gig? We brought an expert to do just that - Jasmine Black. As the owner of BrainChild PSM and with over 15 years of corporate sales experience, Jasmine understands both sides of the metaphorical sales coin. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, she gives you the inside scoop on mistakes B2B sellers should avoid to land their next job.

What should B2B sellers avoid when searching for their next gig?

  • Don’t wait for your next opportunity to fall in your lap. 
  • Learn to be assertive without being overly aggressive in interactions throughout the hiring process. Remember, you want to show how you can provide value to the organization, not just show up to the office with your resume.
  • Position yourself as a thought leader in the organization. Tell them challenges you see and explain how you’ve resolved similar issues in the past. Or even provide a plan to utilize in the future once you have the position. 
  • Don’t engage without intentionality. When you create your own personal brand, that professional reputation precedes you. Determine how do you want to be known. 

Create your resume to work for you.

  • Jasmine read an article about a man who finds a job he wants and then builds a perfect resume for that job. He then spends the next year developing the skills in that resume to know he’s qualified and experienced in the role.
  • There are several outlets to gain knowledge and experience in a skillset like sales, such as LinkedIn and Hubspot

What can sellers do to start making themselves attractive to land that next job?

  • Create your brand, and create it with intention. Take time to write a list of things you want to be known for - they can be things you want to improve on, something you already know, or things you might even be lacking.
  • Record yourself saying those things, and look back at the recording - do you believe yourself? Is that what you want? If it is, great, keep going that way. If not, reroute. 
  • Networking is critical to the sales industry. If you aren’t networking, start.

Jasmine’s secret to networking:

  • What’s the awesome new social media platform Jasmine utilizes to interact with new and knowledgeable people? Clubhouse.
  • When she seeks to network, Jasmine’s ultimate goal is developing a relationship. You should be into the quality of relationships versus the quantity of connections.
  • Clubhouse has no visuals; it's just real names and real identities. The culture is sharing value, being participative, and welcoming - AKA the perfect networking atmosphere. 

Jasmine’s final piece of advice? You can have anything you want in life if you just help enough others get what they want. Get in touch on Instagram, LinkedIn, or @brainchild on Clubhouse!

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1458.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The resume is an integral part of the professional world. But while it does show off your prior work experience, it doesn’t show who you are as a person. What motivates you, or why are you applying for that specific job? Simon Tecle, VP of Sales at SyncroMSP, joins us on today’s episode to explain how you can tell your story at your next interview, sans resume, to begin the next step of your career with confidence and success.

The resume is not your story.

  • A typical interview response is to admit, “I don’t have experience in x,y, or z.”
  • Don’t let your resume be the anchor in your conversation, especially if you know you lack the experience to capitalize on it.
  • The hiring manager already knows you have a lack of experience, and they wouldn’t be talking to you if that was a deal-breaker.

Why do we feel so tied to our resume experience?

  • Because resumes are critical in the corporate world. However, stories convey key skills to a job we don’t put on our resume.
  • Are you ex-military? Talk about your time management. Are you a parent? I bet you’ve mastered multitasking. Do you play sports? Talk about your will to win and competitive spirit.

Overcoming traditional interviews.

  • If an interviewer is insistent on a resume-based interview, link line items from the job description to your personal stories.
  • A quick tip - don’t agree with the interviewer if they mention a lack of experience.
  • It isn’t about just answering the question; it’s about responding in a way that is best for you.

Simon’s other tips for sellers to remember for their next interview:

  • Always have thoughtful questions at the end, and follow up immediately after the interview.
  • Highlight skills and accomplishments that demonstrate both soft and hard skills related to the job description.
  • Simon’s major takeaway? Apply to careers and jobs where you relate to the requirements of the role. Plain and simple.

Want to get in contact with Simon? Email him at simon@synchromsp.com, or connect with him on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1457.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Going into an interview can be tough. Whether it’s your very first interview or your twentieth, the nerves never go away completely. You don’t want to sound like an idiot, right? But what if you had a cheat sheet and knew the most common questions salespeople tend to mess up? That’s exactly what we did for today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist. Today we’re joined by Kathleen Steffey, founder, and CEO of Naviga Recruiting, to learn how to answer difficult interview questions and secure your next sales gig.

Question One: Anything related to your sales process. 

  • A VP of Sales might ask an interviewee about their selling process from beginning to end. Even if that salesperson knows their approach, they often just don’t know how to articulate it.
  • If someone can’t walk through their process, a leader might think they lack depth or aren’t methodical.
  • Think about your process in advance, write it down, and go from there.

Question Two: Tell me where you came in against quota?

  • You have to know when you came in against quota, whether it’s over or under. If a sales rep doesn’t know their numbers, it’s considered a big negative.
  • What if your business doesn’t measure by quota? (Yes, those companies exist.) Create your own measurable goals that define success, and know if you’ve achieved those goals. 

Question Three: What is your prospecting strategy?

  • Ten years ago, people could get away with merely pounding the pavement or cold calling. But in today’s marketplace, if you’re not handling prospecting in an integrated manner, you’re viewed as antiquated.
  • Know your strategy, and if your strategy is purely through one pipeline, you likely want to reevaluate your strategy.  

Question Four: How do you differentiate yourself in the selling process?

  • If you’re meeting your numbers, you might not have ever had to think about this. But the sales process has changed where you have to be creative to be successful.
  • Show an interviewer you're different; show them your resilience and prospecting skills through your process. It wins, especially for salespeople.

Find Naviga Recruiting on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn, and connect directly with Kathleen on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.\

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1456.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Moving to a virtual workplace means companies can hire better and faster while reducing employee cost and turnover. But are there benefits to returning to the brick-and-mortar model of 2019? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald interviews Dan Fantasia, founder of the sales career advancement company Treeline Inc. to discuss what sales professionals look for in their 2021 work environment.

What are sales professionals looking for in 2021?

  • Most employees prefer virtual roles over in-person. So if you’re thinking of reintroducing your company to the office, you might want to reconsider. If someone is sold on the remote option, they might start looking for a new opportunity.

The pros and cons of having a brick-and-mortar company versus operating remotely:

  • In a virtual job, it’s more challenging to build camaraderie outside the office. However, there are ways to facilitate this relationship. 
  • Dan’s company participated in a virtual wine tasting, and they start each morning with a zoom call to stay aligned and promote communication.
  • The pro of remote working is the removal of commuting. 
  • Companies no longer have to compete for employees with companies in a particular area - they can hire across the United States. 
  • However, this is a double-edged sword, as competing companies are equally able to contact employees with new opportunities.

What should employers be aware of that salespeople want in their 2021 work environment?

  • Just because your company is virtual doesn’t mean you can lowball a candidate. They have an entire world of opportunity now and can just look elsewhere. 
  • Don’t be stuck on the decision to go back to an in-person model. You might have to pay for a building people don’t use, but if your employees work better remotely, the payoff will make the decision worth it.
  • There are risks of virtual work depending on the position, the most pressing being if your employees are mature enough to work virtually.
  • However, between a virtual company and an in-person company, the virtual company can source candidates from the entire country to ensure that the person thrives in that type of environment. 
  • Virtual companies offer a diversity of regional cultures, which can develop new perspectives in your employees.

Dan’s advice for sellers and companies:

  • Corporations should be open-minded and take advantage of the virtual opportunities. You’ll find immense payoff with a virtual model.
  • For candidates: Look for your next opportunity when you’re still employed. You want the longest runway possible to have the time necessary to consider your options. When you’re employed, you won’t have to accept the first offer out of desperation but can instead move towards an opportunity you want.

If you want to get in contact with Dan, email him directly at fantasia@treelineinc.com, or you can visit his company website.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1455.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Are you trying to find your first sales job or looking to stand out from the competition to land that first gig? Look no further, because on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald Kelly shares three strategies to find your first sales job.

Strategy One: Befriend recruiters for the type of jobs you’re trying to land.

  • Recruiters have a vested interest in finding great people - it means they get more money. So don’t be afraid of interacting with them!
  • To find the right recruiters, go to any recruiting website to see which industries specific people recruit for.
  • Search for them on LinkedIn, connect with them, and see which companies they hire for. 
  • Once you find the recruiters and build a relationship, you’ll have an opportunity ready for you when looking for your next career step.

Strategy Two: Network, network, network

  • Your network is your net worth. If you go on social media and ask your network for job recommendations, you’ll get a ton. Not all of them will be good, but there will be opportunities with potential for you to explore.
  • If you already have a job and don’t want your employer to see it, direct message your connections in the space you’re looking to move into. 
  • Find the movers and shakers in your community, introduce yourself, and see if they’re able to direct you to someone who can help you.

Strategy Three: Connect with people within your target company.

  • This strategy, taken from Jacob at Sales for the Culture, will help you land a sale or job with a specific company or industry.
  • Find a company on LinkedIn, reach out to any recruiters specifically for that company, and introduce yourself.
  • Reach out to employees in the department or position you’re looking to get in and connect with them.
  • You’ll be amazed how willing people are willing to advise and help get you where you want to go.

With these strategies, you’ll have a relationship with the recruiter, information from your connections, and relationships with the people at your target company. Sounds pretty good, right?

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1454.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Before the pandemic, salespeople could hear and learn from their peers through unscheduled interactions. But with water-cooler conversations at an all-time low, how can we continue to learn from our team members? On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by Zach Ballenger, co-founder of Casted, to discuss how companies can continue to foster spontaneous conversations in the virtual office

What is learning in osmosis?

  • Learning by osmosis uses that desktop chatter you don’t expect to hear. It’s walking by your coworker right when he gives an excellent pitch or when you casually see how your colleague organizes her work on her computer—organic learning through unscheduled interactions.
  • A lot of salespeople don’t want to go back to an office post-pandemic. While there are many benefits to virtual work, losing the ability to develop unscheduled conversations is one element that is unfortunately lost.

What are the benefits of osmosis learning?

  • It facilitates unexpected growth opportunities. With an in-person office, nuances such as handovers and explanations provide context for growth, especially for those newer in the industry.
  • Overhearing information can inform potential training and opportunities to perform better.

What can we do to foster osmosis learning in some way in a remote environment?

  • Have colleagues shadow each other throughout their workday. They might learn something new by watching the tasks they perform each day completed in an entirely new way.
  • Create pop-up zoom meetings for employees to work together, even if they aren’t directly working together on anything in particular. 
  • Start a Discord server for anyone who plays games or shares a hobby to build relationships outside of the office.

What tip do you have for a sales rep who feels they miss that type of learning?

  • Let someone know you want that element integrated into your workday. You can rely on management to help start this process, but don’t be afraid to ask your other coworkers and colleagues.

Are you interested in learning more from Zach? Reach out to him on his company website or connect on LinkedIn.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1453.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The pandemic changed the way we sell. Or even how do we sell? Using LinkedIn as a resource for BDRs and SDRs to make sales, even during COVID-19, can help lead you to success. Today on The Sales Evangelist Donald is joined by Amanda Staffon and Jason Behnke, former business development representatives at BlueGrace Logistics, to learn how they used LinkedIn throughout the pandemic as a tool to supplement and advance their sales process.

Selling in a difficult time

  • While the pandemic threw a wrench in everyone’s professional lives, an opportunity was created: to help those in need. 
  • Amanda and Jason found themselves focusing even more on building relationships and being available for their prospects.
  • With COVID-19, the necessary questions have shifted from understanding company strategies to understanding if their basic needs are being met as an organization.

Prospecting today 

  • Now that the end of COVID is in sight, salespeople are running at high speeds to make up for the lull of 2020. 
  • Rotating between phone calls, email, and LinkedIn outreach help ensure your prospects receive your message. Plus, it’s helpful to use multiple platforms in our newly-found virtual economy. 
  • People are no longer as receptive to a direct approach. However, authenticity and patience are high in demand - prospects want a conversation, but at a slower pace. 
  • The upside? Salespeople can learn more about their prospects’ goals and needs. AKA, you can guide them to the product that best suits their needs. 
  • Now more than ever, it’s essential for empathy to drive the communication between the seller and the prospect.

Develop casual conversations 

  • Because people are spending more time at home, prospects might be open to phone calls during odd hours. And with the sudden shift to virtual work, sales reps have opportunities to hold more casual conversations, thus developing their relationship. 
  • The omnichannel approach (providing great customer service across multiple platforms and channels) is more important than ever. 

Face the objection 

  • No matter what you do, some people just don’t want to be sold to. When a prospect has this objection, Amanda encourages honesty: tell your client you want to know how the pandemic affected their company to help ease their challenges. 
  • Empathy and authenticity are two important traits a salesperson can develop, especially on LinkedIn. 
  • Take advantage of LinkedIn features like voicemail messaging to demonstrate authenticity to your prospect.
  • Commenting on other peoples’ content is a good strategy for LinkedIn; interacting with their posts and other commenters can begin a great conversation. 

“How BDRS and SDR Should Use LinkedIn During COVID19!” episode resources

  • You can reach both Amanda and Jason via their LinkedIn accounts. Go ahead and connect with them! 
  • If you are interested in more sales stories, you can talk to Donald about it. Reach him via these channels: LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook, about any sales concerns. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder wrote by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1452.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

President and Co-founder of BombBomb Darin Dawson joins us on today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist to discuss the importance of utilizing video in sales after COVID-19. Running sales marketing and customer success for his video platform company gives Darin key insights to make your post-pandemic sales successful.

The importance of video for sales in the post COVID era:

  • The pandemic taught us how to create a new and different customer experience: video. Even once the pandemic ends, people might not be keen to leave the video approach because people can be unique, creative, and (most importantly) themselves. 
  • Any business can replicate and develop new features, but there is no way to replicate people. And video allows people to capitalize on the people and the relationship you’ve built with your prospects.
  • Video is personal, not personalized.

Relationships aren’t built over text on a screen:

  • Use video for the back and forth dialogue typically done through text.
  • Video capitalizes on a salesperson’s relationship-building skills and helps them stand out from the competition.
  • Sending a video is asynchronous, meaning the prospect can watch the video on their time, send it to coworkers or decision-makers, and even view it multiple times.
  • While video is now used mainly for initial outreach, you can and should experiment with sending video throughout the sales process to capitalize on the face-to-face interaction video provides.

Where has Darin seen video used to increase sales post-pandemic?

  • Video builds better relationships, which can later accelerate sale expansion down the line.
  • Communication is more than verbal; nonverbal is just as important. And you can find nonverbal communication through video.
  • Your videos don’t have to be a formal sit-down. Videos can be short, informal, and meant to build relationships with those you’ve already talked with.
  • For founders, directors, and managers, consider sending videos internally to encourage and congratulate your employees.
  • Darin’s biggest takeaway? People are your best asset. And you need to capitalize on that by providing a fresh and exciting customer experience.

Connect with Darin on LinkedIn, but make sure to connect with a personal message!

If you’re interested in more sales stories, you can talk to Donald directly. Reach him on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook about any sales concerns. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX.

Direct download: TSE_1451.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today on The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by the Founder and Dean of The Non-Sleazy Sales Academy, Annie P. Ruggles. Annie has spent the last decade harnessing her Hulk-like disdain for hard sales and tacky self-promotion to help others sell their services without feeling slimy, queasy, or untrue to their ethics. And on today’s episode, she’ll explain how we can maneuver these tactics for sales in a post-COVID world.

How do I ensure that my business will succeed in a post-pandemic world?

  • Change areas of your selling that aren’t right for your message and delivery. You no longer have the excuse of COVID to keep those bad habits.
  • Consider the post-pandemic a clean slate to look at your selling procedures and identify where more education or skill is needed.
  • We tend as small business owners to sell and manage our sales folks to sell to people exactly like us. Cast a wider net. 
  • Balance your emotional storytelling with the details and KPIs.

What are some other things salespeople do that may be subtly eroding trust with a prospect? 

  • If you can throw your sales script out the window, please do.
  • The typical 30-minute discovery call no longer works: How do you know if you're the right fit for them if you blab the whole time?
  • Instead, ask, without any fluff, what is the most important problem we could solve together? And how will you know if we're successful?

What can I do for my business to thrive?

  • Do more to rise against the horrible reputation of selling.
  • We can have literally anything brought to us in minutes, yet we still have this idea that selling requires a ghoulish, predatory behavior. 
  • Whoever you are or whatever your personality is, you’re a salesperson if you deliver value and receive profit. That includes parents, coaches, teachers, and many other professions you might not consider.

If you're telling your story, how do you know how much emotion to bring?

  • What she doesn't want to do is come off like it's all about her. So she's not going to share personal or painful details, but she will share her story, the emotions she felt, and why that experience helps her understand the prospect’s needs.
  • Dial down the detail, dial up the emotion; it helps cast a wider demographics net.

Annie’s major takeaway?

  • Post-COVID, we crave connection more than ever. Be a genuine individual. Be present, be honest, and listen.
  • Learn when to close your mouth and listen. Especially after sharing the price point, we tend to babble and fill the space. Do not fill the space - that’s their thinking space, and you should respect it.

Did Annie impact you? For those in an education space, visit her website. Otherwise, connect with her on LinkedIn and Instagram. 

If you’re interested in more sales stories, you can talk to Donald directly. Reach him on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook about any sales concerns. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX.

Direct download: TSE_1450.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Here’s a fun fact: Only 33% of decision-makers feel their organization is ready to get back to in-person work. What does this mean for the sales professional? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald shares three insights salespeople should remember as we adjust to the inevitable post-COVID return to office work. Over the next four to six episodes of the podcast, you'll hear Donald talk with different sales leaders, authors, and sales coaches about what you need to know as we get back into the office full time.

Only a third of decision-makers feel their company is ready to return to the office.

  • This Market Watch article details this statistic and that many decision-makers feel going back to the office will be unpredictable and potentially chaotic.
  • What should the salesperson expect when they come back to the office?

Sales may slow down, and your sales process might take longer.

  • Those decision-makers will have many fires to put out with the return to the office.
  • They’ll have to ensure employee safety, implement new protocols, and return to their typical job as well. Meaning they might not have as much time to devote to your sale.

What can you do as a seller? Overplan.

  • Don’t assume the sale, but ensure the sale.
  • Map out the whole sales process to visually see what needs to happen to the deal or project to get implemented quickly. 

Communicate. And, whenever possible, over-communicate.

  • Keep your prospect engaged and involved in the process to prevent them from becoming distant. 
  • Communicate through multiple channels to ensure top-of-mind thought. Don’t go overboard, but make sure you’re available and easy to find.
  • Consider utilizing text messaging. It's quick, it's easy, and virtually everybody has their phones on them at all times.
  • The purpose of over-communicating is not to get something or finish a sale; you communicate to bring value. 

Become a digital seller, not a lone ranger.

  • This article from the Harvard Business Review stresses the importance of being a digital-savvy sales professional.
  • As the use of digital tools and analytics grows, Field Sales Reps will need more than just impersonal skills to be successful.
  • The old profile of a “lone wolf” sales professional is giving way to a team player who can collaborate with others.

Donald’s final takeaway: If you think the buyer will clamor over you for your product and service, you need to change that mindset. From the wise words of Stephen Covey: Seek first to understand, then to be understood.

If you’re interested in more sales stories, you can talk to Donald directly. Reach him on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook about any sales concerns. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX

Direct download: TSE_1449.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Austin McCulloh, consultant and founder of Austin McCulloh Advising. Austin shows people how to prospect virtually, whether using LinkedIn, Facebook, or other methods to take advantage of online opportunities. During his professional career, he’s learned that what's between your ears is your biggest obstacle, not who’s in front of you.

Overcome your mental challenges.

  • None of us are perfect, so stop trying to live up to an impossible standard.
  • Some salespeople spend an hour researching before a main call only to get a prospect voicemail. How much excitement and energy do you have now to make that next call?
  • Have a counsel or advisor around you - people you can bounce ideas off. Especially those better than you.
  • Read The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz to understand and overcome your own self-limiting beliefs.

Develop a process.

  • Some salespeople feel out a sale as it goes because they believe that’s what a successful salesperson can do. In actuality, a developed sales process is what brings confidence and success. 
  • A big pro of virtual prospecting: You can look at and update a google doc while maintaining eye contact with a prospect.

What are some of the things salespeople tell themselves that prevent success?

  • The belief that age prevents success. Those new to an industry or career often think they can’t work with someone older than themselves.
  • From Austin’s firsthand experience, people genuinely don’t care about your age. They care about how competent you are and doing what you say you’re going to do.
  • Read anything by Ed Mylett - Competence comes from doing what you say you're going to do. 

Austin tips to keep himself motivated:

  • He writes down what he needs to do each day and keeps track of it quantitatively, meaning he can clearly measure his completion percentage.
  • Some days the percentage will be higher than others. But if you consistently control what you can on a day-to-day or week-to-week basis, you're going to be a more competent person. 

Austin’s advice for the new or incoming salesperson:

  • If you already have the job, figure out if it’s the job you want to have. If you don't believe what you're selling, it's going to be tough. 
  • People stereotype right off the bat. So whether it's not having the proper clothing or the right look, don't put yourself at a disadvantage right away.
  • Want to connect with Austin? Find him on LinkedIn and his company website.

If you are interested in more sales stories, you can talk to Donald directly. Reach him on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook about any sales concerns. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

Direct download: TSE_1448.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today on The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Junior Germain - intern extraordinaire at The Sales Evangelist. When he’s not hitting the books at BYU-Idaho, you can find Junior assisting the TSE team in all things social media, PR, and marketing. Today’s episode is a quick Q&A, where Junior asks Donald his questions about one topic: what do I need to do to succeed in sales?

Question 1: How do I overcome mental fatigue as a salesperson?

  • When people tell you no, view it as a part of the sales game. (Meaning they aren’t rejecting the person; they’re rejecting the role.)
  • That person might be in the middle of cooking dinner, watching a great Netflix show, or preparing for work. If you try to make a sale (especially when inconvenient for the prospect), you’ll inevitably get rejected.

Question 2: How do you overcome the fact that you’re interrupting their daily schedule? 

  • You’re providing a helpful service or product - something of worth to your prospects. Your job is to help them realize that.
  • You don’t want to convince people that you have a product they need; you want people to convince themselves.
  • At the end of the day, a sales job isn’t about getting people to like you; it’s to deliver a message to solve a problem. And it’s a tough gig.

Question 3: What can I do to turn a no into a yes?

  • Ask questions. Learn about their hesitations to help guide the conversation to a sale.
  • Sometimes people won’t understand the offer, so the salesperson has to help them understand.
  • Give them a menu option. List out a few common reasons someone might not be interested in your product, and use that to address their specific concerns.
  • The key takeaway: understand your product or service. If you’re selling pest control products, you want to know what bugs are likely to be a problem, where they’ll be, and how they’ll present themselves in a house or yard. And since you probably didn’t learn pest control in school, it’s your job to fill the gaps in your knowledge.

You can connect with Junior on LinkedIn and keep an eye on The Sales Evanglist’s social media as well to see Junior’s work.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

Audio provided by Free SFX.

Direct download: TSE_1447.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

New sellers struggle to make sales because they lack the skill and experience to ask well-crafted questions and build rapport with their prospects. In this episode of The Sales Evangelist, guest Tony Morris tells us the five ways for new sellers to sell like pros.

As an author, podcaster, entrepreneur, and speaker for sales conferences worldwide, Tony knows how any beginner in the sales world can stand out.  

Follow the 80/20 rule (but in the proper order)

  • Sales reps should apply the 80/20 rule when talking to prospects: listen 80% of the time and speak 20% of the time. (We have two ears and one mouth, so use them in that order.)
  • Many salespeople use the 80/20 rule, but reversed. Tony’s first tip for new sellers: talk less and listen more. 
  • When you encourage your prospect to talk more, you learn more about their needs and how you can help them.

Ask the right questions. 

  • What makes a bad question? Any question that prompts a one-word answer. These questions are impersonal and don’t provide insight into the prospect’s journey.
  • Instead, ask what Tony calls the “killer questions:” questions that allow you to understand what the prospect is looking for, what they’ve seen in your competition, and how you can help. 
  • Sales managers should encourage their teams to ask open-ended questions. The goal is to hold a conversation, not an interrogation.

Treat people how they want to be treated.

  • Remember the childhood The Golden Rule? Treat people how you want to be treated.
  • In sales, throw that out the window. Follow the Platinum Rule: treat people how they want to be treated.
  • You don’t respond to clients the same way every time because they all have different perspectives of what that looks like. Pay attention to how they want to be treated, and respond accordingly. 

Be interested, not interesting.

  • Top salespeople are genuinely curious and interested in their prospects. Your job is not to sell but to serve by helping them buy what is most appropriate to their needs.
  • Genuine interest will transform regular customers into ambassadors who recommend you to their friends, family, and colleagues.  

Be The Challenger 

Do the basics brilliantly.

  • We over-complicate the sales process. The basics are pretty simple: schedule meetings, prepare questions to preempt objections, build rapport, understand problems, and develop solutions. 
  • For example, you need to offer multiple touchpoints. If they are genuine prospect, connect with them on LinkedIn, comment on their post, send them articles of interest or a copy of your book. 
  • Once you know how to do things the right way, you’ll want to keep going. The more you get good results, the more these actions become habitual.

 Connect with Tony Morris via his LinkedIn, and you can also check out his website, Tony Morris International.  

If you are interested in more sales stories, you can talk to Donald directly. Reach him on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook about any sales concerns. 

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

Direct download: TSE_1446.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today on The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by Shufflrr CEO and co-founder James Ontra to discuss the importance of storytelling in sales. What’s Shufflrr? They help companies transform humble PowerPoints into invaluable business assets. Even better, your entire company can present and share from those same decks. It’s a paradigm change in presentation management that’s long overdue.

Why are presentations so important?

  • Presentations are an integral part of the business world. From product information to case studies to introductions, companies communicate to each other through presentations. 
  • We typically think of presentations as a single document, but it’s more nuanced than that. Every presentation is a story, and every slide is a scene.
  • Within Shuffler, you can drag and drop slides to create custom stories, and your entire company can present and share from those same decks.
  • Meaning, those coworkers presenting in London or Hong Kong will be unified with the same platform.

 

How do we tell better stories?

  • Most modern presentations are slapped together to supplement basic information. (Remember that college lecture that made you fall asleep every Monday and Wednesday morning?) 
  • You want your slides to follow, not force, the conversation.
  • Emotional storytelling conveys the experience when the time is right; that’s the difference between a $1 billion and $2 billion sponsor or whether or not you make your sale.
  • If you move your audience, you’ve made an impact. There’s nothing worse than indifference.

Applying storytelling to sales.

  • People buy emotionally and justify logically. 
  • The key to effective presentations is to determine which components emotionally drive you and your product or service.
  • You probably have dozens of disorganized sales and marketing presentations. James recommends you put them in one place and decide which ones can best tell your story. (AKA exactly what Shufflrr will do for you.)
  • Consistent presentations throughout your organization will help you achieve your goals. 
  • The typical funnel: sales make a PowerPoint and then send it to marketing for their blessing. Shufflrr gives you marketing-blessed PowerPoints to pick from that ensure brand consistency.

James’s final takeaway: Your presentations tell your company’s story, and each slide is a scene. Once you figure out which scenes appeal emotionally to your audience, use those across your company.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

Direct download: TSE_1445.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by coach, speaker, and presenter Francois Lupien. From Tae Kwon Do Canadian champion to a top real estate agent to serial entrepreneur, Francois has worn multiple hats and now dedicates himself to helping entrepreneurs increase their net worth and accomplish their goals. Today, he lets us know why sales are important and his approach to doing it right every time.

But first, why are sales so important?

  • Nothing happens until a sale is made, regardless of the field. A sale is needed for a business, just like fuel is needed for any car.
  • For the client, you are an essential cog in the wheel. There are many problems and many solutions, but the salesperson’s job is to ensure the solution is brought to the problem.
  • As a salesperson, you need to be Sherlock Holmes: inquisitive, curious, and 100% focused on the person in front of you. Genuine interest in the client is your first role.

Francois’s tips to be excellent in sales:

  • Questions are the answer. If you aren’t getting the answers you want, change your questions to get the right answers.
  • Do not make assumptions as a salesperson - you will fail. Ask questions to find out what the prospect wants.
  • The salesperson’s job is to serve the people, even if they aren’t the perfect fit for the sale. If you remain professional and helpful, they’ll be impressed and give referrals to more prospects.
  • Use active listening to figure out what information you need from the prospect.
  • A phrase that brings sales “I can help you with that. It’s very common with the people that I deal with. If I can show you how to solve your problem, will you work with me?”

His parting advice:

  • His go-to method - describe a scenario and ask the client if the scenario describes them.
  • Never ask to close or make the person join when they’re in that stressful environment (AKA when you tell them the price.) 
  • After stating the price, link your service back to their end result - exceeding their expectations and future pacing. Once they’re back in a yes mentality, move forward and make the sale.
  • One major takeaway? Listen to the people who’ve been in your situation. Success leaves clues. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel and embrace the experience of others. 

Connect with Francois on LinkedIn and at his website howtobecomemore.com to schedule a free call with him!

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

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Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today on The Sales Evangelist, Donald gives three tips to consider before your first BDR role. Success doesn’t happen overnight, but using Donald’s tips will pave the path to your success as you begin your sales career.

Don’t take it personally.

  • There will be times people hang up on you are simply not interested - it happens to everyone. But don’t let that unmotivate you!
  • There will also be times putting yourself out there, and engaging with the prospect will be what makes the sale.
  • Even if a prospect isn’t interested, recognize they’re rejecting the offer and not the salesperson.

Follow up more than you think you should.

  • 80% of sales require five follow-up calls after the meeting, yet 44% of salespeople give up after one follow-up. Why is that?
  • Salespeople are often afraid of how they’re presenting themselves if they contact a prospect multiple times in a row. Even worse, the salesperson might have their feelings hurt after a nonresponse. 
  • Avoiding these mentalities is key to developing sales. From the wise words of Donald Kelly, “follow-up, follow-up, follow-up.”

It’s important to develop a process.

  • Have you ever run across another salesperson who just seems like they have everything together? You only see half the picture.
  • You only see the results of their effort. You don’t see the reading, practice, and organizational work that developed their sales process.
  • As a new seller, you will not have developed a refined process that works for you; that simply happens with experience and exposure.
  • Malcolm Gladwell’s book “Outliers,” says you need 10,000 hours of work to be good at something

Here’s a bonus secret:

  • If you want to succeed as a BDR, talk with someone in that role who has developed their process.
  • Take the time and ask them what they would do if they were in your shoes. 
  • They’ll probably say to listen to The Sales Evangelist, but they’ll also give helpful advice that can help launch you from point A to point B.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

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Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

A salesperson usually has a list of questions they want to ask a prospect. After all, understanding the prospect and their business is necessary to know if and how you can help them and their business. But often, these questions come across as overly prying. How do you fix this? By using Donald’s four tips to avoid sounding like you’re prying in their business.

Build rapport before you ask questions.

  • The private information you need will come only if the prospect feels comfortable.
  • You don’t have the authority to ask those questions when you first start interacting with a prospect.
  • The key? Don’t ask about the weather - surface-level questions don’t build the relationship you need. 
  • Ask more profound questions and provide thoughtful engagement to show the client you care about their result.

Let them know you’ll be asking tough questions. 

  • Think back to episode 1275 and episode 452 about rapport building and rule-setting, respectively - these elements are critical to establishing before asking questions.
  • Give a prospect everything they need to know before starting, and they’ll be much more likely to be okay with it.

Be mindful of your question phrasing.

  • The way you phrase questions or statements will change the impact of the question.
  • Softening questions by providing your reasons for the questions will make a prospect more likely to react positively and give a thorough answer. 

Educate them enough before you ask the question

  • Enter the room as a professional to be treated as a professional.
  • If a client recognizes someone as an expert, they’ll be more willing to divulge information.
  • Share relevant statistics that link to your question - it shows you know what you’re talking about, especially if you apply that statistic to your end result.

Put these points together, and your questions will not come across as prying; because you’ve done the research and methods to build a relationship with your prospect and show you deserve answers to your questions.

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

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Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today on The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by David Garcia. The current CEO of the pre-employment background check company ScoutLogic Screening, David’s 25 years of experience in B2B sales and marketing has made him well-accustomed to asking the right questions. With a specialty in big enterprise deals, David developed a strategic sales method to optimize his success chances. He’ll share some of that methodology by telling us four things to consider when drafting sales questions based on a customer’s personality.

Rethink your role in the sales process. 

  • Sales is shifting away from a sales-driven approach. Consider yourself more akin to an intelligence agent. (Think Carrie Mathison from Homeland.)
  • Why is this important?  Because sales today is 80% research and 20% asking questions.
  • Salespeople are versed in researching a company: check reports, Twitter feeds, social media; you can learn a lot that way. But when David says research, he means to learn about the buyer - the person on the other end of the call or table.
  • You know this, one of the best ways to build rapport with someone is to find a common interest. 

Discover your prospect’s learning style.

  • You need to uncover what that person’s learning style is or how they absorb and give information.
  • We all have four primary learning styles: listening, visual, reading, and tactile and touch. David recommends finding out either from others through research or even asking the prospect directly. 

Find your prospect’s personal win.

  • This tip is the most critical, and it’s important to remember that your prospect’s personal win might not align with their business objective.
  • When crafting the value proposition, you want more than to get the organization’s goal. You want to provide a way the prospect can keep building bricks towards their personal win, whatever it may be.

Strategize the questions you ask.

  • In the age of zoom, people have less time than ever to answer questions.
  • Buyers don't want to give you a lot of information anymore; they want solutions. They want to know that you're coming with expertise and advice.
  • Think about what’s most important: where are they at in the sales process? What's going to move them to the next step?

What is David’s major takeaway? Do your homework upfront. Grab pieces of information when you can; even a half-hour of research on a buyer will make you a better salesperson.

Want to get in touch with David? Email him at david.garcia@scoutlogicscreening.com

This episode is brought to you in part by Skipio.

Are you sick of crickets? As a salesperson, the pain of reaching out with phone calls or emails and not receiving a response is real.

But all text messaging is not created equal. 85% of people prefer text over email and phone calls because they want to engage in a conversation, not listen to bots. Be more like people and start having conversations that end in the conversions you want. Try Skipio at www.Skipio.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by NetHunt CRM.

NetHunt CRM is a sales automation tool that lives inside Gmail. It covers a full set of features to manage leads, nurture customer relations, monitor sales progress, and automate sales and marketing workflows. With native-like Gmail and  G Suite integration, you can access your CRM data, launch bulk email campaigns, and set up automated sequences from the comfort of your inbox. NetHunt helps move leads down your sales funnel and never lets a valuable prospect go untouched.

NetHunt CRM offers TSE listeners a 40% discount for the first three months along with free user training and a dedicated Customer Success Manager with any pricing plan.

Try NetHunt CRM today at https://nethunt.com/tse.

This course is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Certified Training Program, a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Help elevate your sales game and sign up now to get the first two modules free! You can visit www.thesalesevangelist.com/closemoredeals or call (561) 570-5077 for more information. We value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey.

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes, tune in on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings for each episode you listen to! 

Read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore their huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day trial.

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Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

On today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, we’re joined by David Goings, self-professed sales nerd and current SMB team lead at LogicGate. 

David believes in making an impact in the prospect’s sales journey.

  • Sales, at its core, should bring a positive impact to your customer’s lives.
  • You might do that through your products and services. But also, sometimes it's just in the experience that you have with the customer.
  • From an inbound perspective, you need to consider where the customer may be in the buying process. With an inbound conversation, the prospect may have already identified that problem internally. 
  • In an outbound conversation, you may have just pique someone's interest. But the prospect is still identifying the problem. 

David’s Three Tips to Avoid Conversations Feeling Like an Interrogation

  • Change your mindset. You need to come in and understand that your job is to help the other person, not to make a sale. You morally can't pitch products and solutions until you know the prospect’s current situation and goals.
  • Set expectations for both you and your prospect. It all starts from humans wanting to know what's next. For any kind of business setting, especially a first conversation, ease the customer’s mind and let them know what will happen in the conversation.
  • Bring a perspective. Young professionals have a hard time feeling they belong in the room. They're not an expert. But while they may not be an expert in their industry, they’re experts in buying technology, in their customers, and their customer’s stories on how we've impacted them.
  • Here’s a bonus tip: ask layered questions to understand your customer’s needs. David uses the TED acronym: tell me, explain to me, describe to me.

David’s advice for the sales professional:

  • The way we do things as sales professionals in the sales process can be the differentiator for us.
  • Unpack and understand your “why” as a sales professional. If you can get behind your “why,” it positively impacts the customer.
  • Read “Selling with Noble Purpose” by Lisa McLeod.


Want to get ahold of David? Reach out on LinkedIn (and be sure to congratulate him on his recent job change.)

Direct download: TSE_1440.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Sometimes we have in our minds that we ask stupid questions. This mentality creates roadblocks, and these roadblocks stop us from getting the information we need to help our clients in a way they need to be helped. In today's episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald shares with you what you can do to overcome this thought and how you can prepare to ask the right questions.

The American Dream is Dead

  • Donald asked everyday people a question: do they believe the American Dream is dead?
  • Those initial nerves that come with asking strangers big questions turned to excitement when those strangers animatedly responded, “no, the dream isn’t dead!” (just more difficult to achieve.)
  • What did Donald learn from the experience? Questions we might be nervous to ask often come lead to the most success. 

Some of the reasons you don’t ask meaningful questions: 

  • You are self-conscious. You focus back on yourself because you think it might sound bad.
  • You think the question might be too rude, against social norms, or that you don't want to come off as pushy.
  • You think you should already know the answer to the question.
  • The person is an executive, so you don't want to bother them.

How should you ask the question, even if it’s “stupid?”

  • Ask any attorney; you don't ask a question if you don't know where the answer will lead. In a sales scenario, you need to figure out where you want the conversation to go.
  • The more confident you are in the topic, the less stupid a question will be in your mind.
  • To ask the right questions, you must understand the problems your prospects face.
  • The takeaway here is that you should study and understand your client’s industry and business to understand the intricacies they face.

Our parting thoughts? Know where your question will lead, make sure your questions are simple and don't ever think it's stupid

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Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald Kelly gives us the scoop on one major closing question you’re neglecting to ask.

But first, let’s picture this scenario.

  • Dave is a salesperson who has been working with his lead, Bob, for three months. 
  • His sale is in the bag; he gave a fantastic presentation, his sales engineer answered every question the prospect had, and Dave sent them a proposal.
  • Despite going through every step in the process, Dave didn’t get the result he wanted; he got hit with the “we’re going to need some more time to think about it” conversation. Where did he go wrong?

It’s simple - there’s one question he forgot to ask.

  • The ultimate question: Would I make this purchase based on the same information I know if I were the buyer?
  • Sales is shortsighted - we’re focused on our pipeline. Dave was focused on meeting his quota, impressing his manager, and making sales rather than his prospect’s needs. 

How can you ask this question to improve your sales strategy?

  • Habit #5 of “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People” - Seek first to understand, then seek to be understood. 
  • Consider the context of the buyer. What business problem are you solving for them? Look at the industry they’re in and their relationship with the software to make informed decisions.
  • Did you give the buyer a parachute in case things go south? Did you give them an out? Not every deal will close - that’s just a given. But asking this question will provide you with more predictability with closings. 
  • If we are more diligent in asking questions and analyze the deal from the buyer’s standpoint, your sales will increase. 

Donald’s ultimate takeaway? Start the conversion process earlier. Ask your prospects, “based on what you know, do you feel confident moving forward?” If you fix any problems early, the prospect will have a higher degree of confidence at the end of the sales process.

Connect with Donald on LinkedIn and let him know if this helped close more deals.

Direct download: TSE_1438.mp3
Category:Sales Training -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

How To Train Salespeople That Aren’t Natural Salespeople

 

Getting training as a salesperson is part of the process and it is especially important for those individuals where selling doesn’t come naturally. How do you shape them to become great salespeople?

 

John Martinez is a sales trainer and has been training salespeople exclusively for about six years. Before that, he’d had a sales career for over 20 years. Working in corporate America training and building sales teams, he eventually decided to leave to start his own sales training company. 

 

Becoming a great salesperson

With proper training, anyone can learn the skills to get better at their job and sales is no exception. Not all salespeople are born for sales but with the right exposure and training, a skillset can be gained to excel. In these cases, one needs the desire to develop the strategies to help them overcome the inevitable hurdles and challenges that can come with a career in sales. 


John wasn’t a natural-born salesperson himself.  He had a speech problem growing up and the only person who could understand him was his mother. In sixth grade, he was in therapy five days a week. He was also getting bullied at school so for his own safety, he just learned to blend in. 

 

How to train salespeople

When training new salespeople, great training doesn’t start with sales tactics and strategies.  It starts with the belief system. The sales team needs to know why they sell what they sell and do what they do. People are often held back because they don’t want to be pushy. No one wants to be in an uncomfortable situation, whether they are the sales person or the prospect. Unfortunately, most sales processes are taught in a way that puts salespeople in an awkward position and they get stuck in a battle with their discomfort. 

 

John starts with the basics and teaches salespeople to believe in what they do. When they’ve built up enough trust in themselves, John teaches them the strategies and tactics that make conversations comfortable again. 



The training process: 

John’s sales training is done once a week with teams from around the country. They spend about 45 minutes talking about the why and work toward getting a complete buy-in on the sales strategy. Another 10 minutes is spent on starting to reverse the paradigm. 95% of the sales training is about getting sales reps to understand why they do the things they do and say the things they say. 

 

Salespeople can fail to be successful  because they don’t understand the reasons behind what they are told to do. Even when others do understand, they still may not completely buy into the concept. The why is more important than the how because the how can always be taught. 

 

Becoming a trainer 

John’s choice of being a sales trainer comes from personal experience. While he was successful in training, there was still a shift that occurred between failing and succeeding in his career. The shift came from learning that he could succeed if he followed a step-by-step process. He learned he didn’t have to be a natural salesperson to excel in what he is doing. 

 

John is invested in helping other salespeople find their way. His mission is to give them the process and to help business owners equip their team to become more successful. His training not only helps salespeople find their way but it also helps their prospects get the help they truly need. 

 

The need for a compelling reason

It is normal to be knocked down and face challenges. Hurdles are expected in sales. Having a compelling reason to keep going helps to keep you grounded and it will propel you forward. This  vision is important because it is capable of getting you through the tough times. Without a vision, it is much more difficult to stay motivated. Without a vision and a skillset the chances of bail-out greatly increases.

 

Scripting is part of John’s process. John thinks of sales scripts as training wheels. New salespeople need to start somewhere and scripting is a good introduction. Once the basics are modeled, over time sales people will find their own voice and develop their own conversations. John’s initial scripts help new trainees find their balance. He urges salespeople to read between the lines to find their own way. 

 

In John’s training, they script deal-breaker moments that could prevent closing well.  Compelling reasons why prospects may hesitate to work with the sales person are also looked at. It’s this information that creates the foundation of questions that can help move through tougher conversations.   They prepare six-seven questions that will help connect the dots between the prospect’s problems and finding the answers through the products and services being offered.. John then creates a sales playbook with 10-15 questions that can be used by his clients when working with their customers.  

Laying the foundations 

Having a strong foundation helps. If you give new salespeople too much information at one time, it can set them up for failure. Start small and slowly build the foundation. Once that’s established, you can  add some strategies and build a skillset.  

 

Salespeople need to understand that it’s not just about reading a book and learning the process once, there is always room for improvement. No athlete became skilled immediately.  They continue to play and practice the basics. The same is true in sales.

 

Let your prospects know  immediately and continuously, a no is okay and you’ll see your prospects open up to you. This gives you the window to talk about your products and services comfortably and will set you up for greater success.  

 

“How To Train Salespeople That Aren’t Natural Salespeople” episode resources

Check out his website, midwestrev.com. They do hundreds of free training in a day and more. You can also talk to Donald if you have more sales concerns. Reach him via these channels: LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook about any sales concerns. 

This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Certified Sales Training Program. It’s a course designed to help new and struggling sellers to master the fundamentals of sales and close more deals. Sign up now and get the first two modules for free! You can also call us at (561) 570-5077. 

We have a new semester beginning on February 14th and we would love to have you and your team join us. Follow this link to apply to the program. 

We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes so tune in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify. You can also leave comments, suggestions, and ratings to every episode you listen to. 

You can also read more about sales or listen to audiobooks on Audible and explore this huge online library. Register now to get a free book and a 30-day free trial. 

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The 3 Foolproof Secrets to Get Rid of Your Head Trash 

 

What does it mean to have head trash and how exactly can you get rid of it? Let’s talk about 3 foolproof secrets to get rid of your head trash

Noah St. John is known as The Power Habits Mentor because he has helped thousands of people master their inner game and outer game to help them make more and work less. 

He works with sales professionals, entrepreneurs, celebrities, CEOs, athletes, and more. Noah helps them get rid of their head trash about money, relationships, and everything else holding them back. He is the author of 15 books and his most recently published book is entitled Power Habits: The New Science for Making Success Automatic. Through his work, Noah and his team have helped entrepreneurs and sales professionals increase their sales to six, seven, and even eight figures by using his methods. 

 

Defining head trash

Noah discovered the notion of head trash many years ago. Head trash is the negative voice in your head that constantly tells you, “I can’t because … “ It’s the voice that states all the reasons why you can’t do something you want to do. People consistently approach Noah and tell him they want to reach for more and do bigger things but they can’t because they’re too busy or they don’t have money for it. They have so many reasons why they can’t do the things they want to do. When you tell yourself something your mind is going to believe it. When you say you don’t have the time, then your inner self will believe you truly do not have the time. You are going to make that belief true even when it’s a lie. We all have 24 hours a day regardless of who you are. Time is irrelevant so it’s not an excuse that many people think they have. Head trash is damaging because it’s holding people back. 

 

Identify your head trash

The first step to getting rid of head trash is identifying what it is. For most people it’s repetitive but people fail to realize that it’s the head trash telling you the same lies over and over again. Ideas such as, I’m stupid or I’m not good enough can go through your mind in a loop and you don’t even realize it.  Because these lies are repetitive and habitual, many people aren’t even considering the damage it can cause. 

Identifying your head trash is fairly easy. Write down the negative beliefs you’re carrying about yourself. Most of the negative things we say to ourselves aren’t true. Writing down your negative thoughts will help you become aware of them. 

 

Noah has a client who was a sales professional. She was making about $5,000 a month in sales but she knew she was capable of making more. This salesperson spent time and money to train with gurus but for several years was still stuck at $5,000 a month. She attended Noah’s event called Freedom Lifestyle Experience and hired Noah as a coach. Within a year of using Noah’s Power Habit System, her revenue jumped from $5,000/month to $75,000/month! This is proof that understanding your own head trash and being able to overcome the negative noise will lead to good results. 

You need to look at your inner game in all the different aspects of your life. 

 

Knowing your outer game

The outer game includes the systems and strategies, the blocking and tackling. These would be all the sales tactics invested in and studied.  By working with salespeople for the last two decades, Noah found that success is attained only when someone has mastered both the inner and outer game.  

 

Understand that you can change your beliefs

The first step to transformation is awareness. It’s only when you are aware of something that you’re able to change. If you want to change your life, you need to change your beliefs - these are your thoughts. The human brain automatically searches to answer the questions you ask it. Noah thought about that and realized can’t just make statements the way we do in affirmations.  We don’t believe it. Instead, we need to start asking ourselves questions to put the brain to work. Start asking empowering questions that will lead to phenomenal answers. 

 

AfFORmations 

An affirmation is a statement of something you want to be true. One of the things Noah loves doing during keynote speeches is using the old-school affirmation method. He instructs people to stand up and say, “I am rich.”  Immediately after, the attendees start laughing. When Noah asks why, they say, “I’m not actually rich.” This is why affirmations don’t work. You have to believe in the statements for them to work. Noah, realizing affirmations were ineffective, created The Afformation Method. It is the most direct and powerful yet simple method you can use to change your beliefs. This method uses the act of asking the questions that will lead you to look for the answers. Using the Afformation method, you can change the question to change your beliefs, habits, and eventually your life.                                        

 

Getting the correct mindset

It’s important to talk about your goals. In regards to goals, Noah has been telling his clients, “We don’t rise to the level of our goals, we fall to the level of our systems.”  

 

We all have big dreams and that’s all good. You won’t, however, be able to reach these goals if you haven’t mastered your inner and outer game. Use the power habits system to improve your inner game and use the marketing and digital sales systems to improve your outer game. Focus on the system, not just the goals, to be able to achieve mastery of both inner and outer games. 

 

When to use the system 

The inner game has to do with The Power Habits System. More often than not, successful people don’t realize what they’re doing to cause their success because many things they’re doing are subconscious. Napoleon Hill’s book, Think and Grow Rich talked about what successful people did to attain success. Many salespeople have read the book and tried to replicate what these successful people did, but most didn’t become successful. Why? Because what was shared in the book was what people were consciously doing, and what they were doing subconsciously wasn’t discussed. 

Napoleon talked about the conscious ways that people became successful and Noah tackles how people became successful by focusing on the subconscious.

 

The 3 Foolproof Secrets to Get Rid of Your Head Trash” episode resources

Identify your head trash, understand that you can change your beliefs and throw your head trash away, and then use the afformation method. 

Order the book PowerHabits on Amazon or from the website, Powerhabits.com. Noah will send out a gift package worth $299. If you’re listening to this podcast, Noah will give our two tickets for his Freedom Lifestyle Experience event. 

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Audio provided by Free SFX and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

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